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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:58:49 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:
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>mur wrote in news:t3sonalvs6v470umg1ep23vnvt0j34f18v@4ax.com:
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>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:14:40 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> wrote: .
>>>On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:22:58 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 May 2015 21:19:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>>wrote: .
>>>>>mur wrote in news:s12ima9pc971423jdua48839mqq66gk2i3@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:59:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>> wrote: .
>>>>>>>On Fri, 22 May 2015 12:03:43 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 09 May 2015 00:16:38 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>In article <9nqqka16g2v0jpntpid0nl2nhipl86hosq@4ax.com>, mur
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:11:05 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> >In article , mur
>>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:45:06 -0500, duke
>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: .
>>>>>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:58:32 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>On 4/18/2015 7:24 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:07:02 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> On 4/10/2015 2:14 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:32:02 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 4/9/2015 5:28 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Too much hair splitting. Evidence exists for the
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> presence of God -
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> it can't be
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> denied. One may not like it, but none the less, it
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> stares them in the face,
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> An atheist denies
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> I see that you regard consistency as too much
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> trouble to bother with.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> You see wrong. I'm highly consistent.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> Either it can't be denied, or atheists deny it. Pick
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> The item that nails the supposed atheist is that he
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> rejects evidence we
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> see.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>Yeah. I've seen a bible too. But Harry Potter was a
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>more fun read.
>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> >But not any truth at all. Unless you think you can ride a
>>>>>>>>>> >> >broom stick.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> These people can't distinguish between things we know
>>>>>>>>>> >> are fiction and things
>>>>>>>>>> >> no one could know are fiction.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >Let's have examples of "things no one could know are
>>>>>>>>>> >fiction". 3-5 examples would be a good start.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any of the miracles Jesus was said to have performed,
>>>>>>>>>> including rising from
>>>>>>>>>> the dead, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>We KNOW all of that is fiction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's no way anyone could know that. Even you SHOULD be
>>>>>>>> able to comprehend
>>>>>>>>that much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>because there's not even one piece of
>>>>>>>>>evidence that any of that happened or even that Jesus ever
>>>>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other than the evidence we do have, WHAT more do you think
>>>>>>>> there SHOULD BE?
>>>>>>>>WHERE do you think it SHOULD BE? WHY do you think it SHOULD BE
>>>>>>>>available? Just desperately maundering that you think there
>>>>>>>>should be some sort of verifiable evidence somewhere for some
>>>>>>>>unknown reason does NOT explain anything other than to clearly
>>>>>>>>show that you don't have the slightest clue what you think you're
>>>>>>>>trying to talk about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is enough evidence for YOU to believe
>>>>>>>in this deity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No there isn't. But there's enough to make me consider the
>>>>>> possibility that
>>>>>> there is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And there is the possibility that the Tooth
>>>>>Fairy exists, Santa Claus exists,
>>>>
>>>> Not to me.
>>>>
>>>>>UFO's exists,
>>>>
>>>> There are plenty of them.
>>>>
>>>>>Shiva exists, and Ra exists.
>>>>
>>>> If God does exist I've no doubt people have a number of differing
>>>> beliefs
>>>>about "him" and refer to "him" in a number of different ways.
>>>
>>> That isn't very convincing of you.
>>
>> No one has ever suggested anything that seems more likely.
>>
>>>What proof
>>>do you have for your belief in him?
>>
>> People do have a number of differing beliefs about "him" and refer
>> to "him"
>> in a number of different ways, so if he does exist what I pointed out
>> for you is obviously true.
>
>
> I didn't ask what other people believe, I asked
>what YOU believe. What proof do you have for YOUR belief?
I already clearly told you one of my beliefs is that if God does exist
I've no doubt people have a number of differing beliefs about "him" and refer
to
"him" in a number of different ways. Another belief I have is that if God does
not exist people STILL have a number of differing beliefs about "him" and refer
to "him" in a number of different ways. Can you comprehend either of those
beliefs? If so and you feel either of them are incorrect, then try explaining
how you do.
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