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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:51:31 -0500, Mitchell Holman couldn't figure out:
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>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:55:32 -0400, mur wrote:
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>>On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:58:49 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:
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>>>mur wrote in news:t3sonalvs6v470umg1ep23vnvt0j34f18v@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:14:40 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>> wrote: .
>>>>>On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:22:58 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 29 May 2015 21:19:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>wrote: .
>>>>>>>mur wrote in news:s12ima9pc971423jdua48839mqq66gk2i3@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:59:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>> wrote: .
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 22 May 2015 12:03:43 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 09 May 2015 00:16:38 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>>>In article <9nqqka16g2v0jpntpid0nl2nhipl86hosq@4ax.com>, mur
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:11:05 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> >In article , mur
>>>>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:45:06 -0500, duke
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: .
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:58:32 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>On 4/18/2015 7:24 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:07:02 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> On 4/10/2015 2:14 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:32:02 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 4/9/2015 5:28 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Too much hair splitting. Evidence exists for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> presence of God -
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> it can't be
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> denied. One may not like it, but none the less, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> stares them in the face,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> An atheist denies
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> I see that you regard consistency as too much
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> trouble to bother with.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> You see wrong. I'm highly consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> Either it can't be denied, or atheists deny it. Pick
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> The item that nails the supposed atheist is that he
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> rejects evidence we
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>Yeah. I've seen a bible too. But Harry Potter was a
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>more fun read.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >But not any truth at all. Unless you think you can ride a
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >broom stick.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> These people can't distinguish between things we know
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> are fiction and things
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> no one could know are fiction.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >Let's have examples of "things no one could know are
>>>>>>>>>>>> >fiction". 3-5 examples would be a good start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any of the miracles Jesus was said to have performed,
>>>>>>>>>>>> including rising from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the dead, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>We KNOW all of that is fiction
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's no way anyone could know that. Even you SHOULD be
>>>>>>>>>> able to comprehend
>>>>>>>>>>that much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>because there's not even one piece of
>>>>>>>>>>>evidence that any of that happened or even that Jesus ever
>>>>>>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Other than the evidence we do have, WHAT more do you think
>>>>>>>>>> there SHOULD BE?
>>>>>>>>>>WHERE do you think it SHOULD BE? WHY do you think it SHOULD BE
>>>>>>>>>>available? Just desperately maundering that you think there
>>>>>>>>>>should be some sort of verifiable evidence somewhere for some
>>>>>>>>>>unknown reason does NOT explain anything other than to clearly
>>>>>>>>>>show that you don't have the slightest clue what you think you're
>>>>>>>>>>trying to talk about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is enough evidence for YOU to believe
>>>>>>>>>in this deity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No there isn't. But there's enough to make me consider the
>>>>>>>> possibility that
>>>>>>>> there is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there is the possibility that the Tooth
>>>>>>>Fairy exists, Santa Claus exists,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>UFO's exists,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are plenty of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shiva exists, and Ra exists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If God does exist I've no doubt people have a number of differing
>>>>>> beliefs
>>>>>>about "him" and refer to "him" in a number of different ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> That isn't very convincing of you.
>>>>
>>>> No one has ever suggested anything that seems more likely.
>>>>
>>>>>What proof
>>>>>do you have for your belief in him?
>>>>
>>>> People do have a number of differing beliefs about "him" and refer
>>>> to "him"
>>>> in a number of different ways, so if he does exist what I pointed out
>>>> for you is obviously true.
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't ask what other people believe, I asked
>>>what YOU believe. What proof do you have for YOUR belief?
>>
>> I already clearly told you one of my beliefs is that if God does
exist
>>I've no doubt people have a number of differing beliefs about "him" and
refer to
>>"him" in a number of different ways. Another belief I have is that if God
does
>>not exist people STILL have a number of differing beliefs about "him" and
refer
>>to "him" in a number of different ways.
>
> Based on what proof?
The fact that whether God exists or not people have a number of differing
beliefs about "him" and refer to "him" in a number of different ways.
>>Can you comprehend either of those
>>beliefs? If so and you feel either of them are incorrect, then try explaining
>>how you do.
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