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   On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 14:52:21 -0400, Vincent Maycock  wrote:   
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   >On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:15:16 -0500, duke  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:12:10 -0400, Vincent Maycock  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>In standard Christian theology, God cares about the lost but has other   
   >>>things to contend with that prevent him from helping them.   
   >>   
   >>Haahaahaa.  Vince, that's the most stupid comment I've ever had the   
   misfortune   
   >>to witness.   
   >   
   >No, Christians do it all the time; "God had to do this because ..." or   
   >"the only we way could truly have free will is if God ..." etc., etc.   
   >   
   >>>So if we assume he can, then the resolution to the conundrum would be   
   >>>that God simultaneously can and can't lift the rock; in this idea, he   
   >>>exists in a superposition of states like those found in quantum   
   >>>mechanics.   
   >>   
   >>Why should the creator of the universe be unable to lift the heaviest rock?   
   >   
   >No, it's not "the heaviest rock."   
   >   
   >The conundrum goes: "Can God make a rock so big he can't lift it?"   
   >If he succeeds at making the rock, then "being able to lift it" is   
   >something he can't do, which means he's not omnipotent.   
   >   
   >But if you claim God isn't powerful enough to make such a giant rock,   
   >with its accompanying omnipotence problems, that would *also* be a   
   >limitation of his omnipotence (not being able to make very large   
   >rocks).   
   >   
   >So if God wanted to make this rock by violating the laws of logic, he   
   >just needs to create a situation where he has both the properties of   
   >someone who can't lift some heavy rock (lots of sweat and struggling,   
   >to no avail)  *and* someone who can lift the rock.   
   >   
   >Going into a mixture of outcomes like this, in my view, gives the idea   
   >of omnipotence some measure of  logical consistency.   
      
       You live in your own universe of make believe then.   
      
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