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   On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:41:44 -0400, Vincent Maycock  wrote:   
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   >On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:09:03 -0400, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:37:21 -0400, Vincent Maycock  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 00:41:09 -0400, mur wrote:   
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   >>>snip   
   >>>   
   >>>>>So in other words, let's say that you claim God can't lift the rock.   
   >>>>>Then is he too weak to create a rock he can't lift?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Think about it, and maybe after awhile you'll get it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Omnipotence is not possible, but you obviously still don't "get it."   
   >>>   
   >>>I don't believe that there are any omnipotent entities out there, but   
   >>>from a hypothetical/philosophical standpoint, what sorts of things do   
   >>>you think God is "incapable" of doing, and why don't you think he can   
   >>>do them?   
   >>   
   >>    Omnipotence is not possible because if a being "can" do anything then it   
   can   
   >>not come up with something it can NOT do, making it not omnipotent. Or, if it   
   >>could not come up with something it can NOT do then it could't do that,   
   making   
   >>it not omnipotent.   
   >   
   >This is the essence of the "a rock so big he can't lift it" conundrum,   
   >yes.  I used to agree with the kind of reasoning you posted about   
   >omnipotence there ... until I decided that an omnipotent being   
   >wouldn't be bound by the laws of logic and would meet this sort of   
   >challenge by both being able to and not able to perform the required   
   >task -- at the same time!   
      
       So you make up whatever you want to believe and consider it to be realistic   
   thinking. I can't and don't want to try fooling myself into the position you're   
   in.   
      
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