XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
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   On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 22:31:21 -0600, David Johnston  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 8/6/2015 8:19 PM, mur wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:07:56 -0600, David Johnston  wrote:   
   >> .   
   >>> On 7/31/2015 11:03 AM, mur wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> I hadn't thought of it in those terms, but that makes perfect sense,   
   >>>>> explains the concept quite simply (except to the simple, who are immune   
   >>>>> to understanding).   
   >>>>   
   >>>>       There may be no God associated with Eath. But there may be. You're   
   only   
   >>>> capable of considering one of those possibilities. I consider the other   
   and   
   >>>> point out basic things about it for you people, but they are beyond your   
   mental   
   >>>> ability to consider. Your inability is evidence of God's existence from   
   my POV.   
   >>>   
   >>> Wow.  That's remarkably stupid reasoning.   
   >>   
   >>      Wow. Your inability to comprehend how you could be evidence is more   
   evidence   
   >> of God's existence.   
   >   
   >But that sentence right there by the same token is evidence that there   
   >are no gods.   
      
       Maybe there aren't. Maybe there a lots of them but none associated with   
   Earth. But there are other possibilities you're not able to consider in any   
   realistic way(s), like there is a God (or gods) associated with Earth.   
      
   >>>>>> Thus Darwin has produced a viable explanantion for how we   
   >>>>>> got to be the way we are now (how we evolved)  He may have been wrong   
   >>>>>> in some of the details but basically it is a viable explanation  that   
   >>>>>> is within the normal workings of nature and more than suffcient to   
   >>>>>> overturn an extraordinary  claim some god did it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> To continue to insist that some god did it when there is a perfectly   
   >>>>>> good natural explanation is perverse, stupid and pig-headed   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And the source of our frustration with the theist trolls.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>       One of the basic starting lines you people can't get as "far" as is   
   the   
   >>>> possiblity that your faith that there's no God associated with Earth is   
   not only   
   >>>> stupid and pig-headed, but also evidence of God's existence by being   
   evidence of   
   >>>> Satan's existence and influence on human minds.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ah, so Satan is more powerful than God.   
   >>   
   >>      No, that's just evidence that God doesn't always if ever give a shit   
   whether   
   >> we are more influenced by him or Satan.   
   >   
   >Why is that evidence of one thing and not the other?   
      
       Because if a person doesn't care about having a relationship with God, or   
   even would like to have a "relationship" where God does things for them but   
   they   
   don't accept him as their Lord, it makes sense that God wouldn't help them   
   against influence from Satan. Why would he?   
      
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