XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality   
   From: David@block.net   
      
   On 8/11/2015 12:43 PM, mur wrote:   
   > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 22:31:21 -0600, David Johnston wrote:   
   > .   
   >> On 8/6/2015 8:19 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:07:56 -0600, David Johnston wrote:   
   >>> .   
   >>>> On 7/31/2015 11:03 AM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I hadn't thought of it in those terms, but that makes perfect sense,   
   >>>>>> explains the concept quite simply (except to the simple, who are immune   
   >>>>>> to understanding).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There may be no God associated with Eath. But there may be.   
   You're only   
   >>>>> capable of considering one of those possibilities. I consider the other   
   and   
   >>>>> point out basic things about it for you people, but they are beyond your   
   mental   
   >>>>> ability to consider. Your inability is evidence of God's existence from   
   my POV.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Wow. That's remarkably stupid reasoning.   
   >>>   
   >>> Wow. Your inability to comprehend how you could be evidence is more   
   evidence   
   >>> of God's existence.   
   >>   
   >> But that sentence right there by the same token is evidence that there   
   >> are no gods.   
   >   
   > Maybe there aren't. Maybe there a lots of them but none associated with   
   > Earth. But there are other possibilities you're not able to consider in any   
   > realistic way(s), like there is a God (or gods) associated with Earth.   
      
   I'll have you know my cat definitely exists.   
      
      
   >   
   >>>>>>> Thus Darwin has produced a viable explanantion for how we   
   >>>>>>> got to be the way we are now (how we evolved) He may have been wrong   
   >>>>>>> in some of the details but basically it is a viable explanation that   
   >>>>>>> is within the normal workings of nature and more than suffcient to   
   >>>>>>> overturn an extraordinary claim some god did it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> To continue to insist that some god did it when there is a perfectly   
   >>>>>>> good natural explanation is perverse, stupid and pig-headed   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And the source of our frustration with the theist trolls.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> One of the basic starting lines you people can't get as "far" as   
   is the   
   >>>>> possiblity that your faith that there's no God associated with Earth is   
   not only   
   >>>>> stupid and pig-headed, but also evidence of God's existence by being   
   evidence of   
   >>>>> Satan's existence and influence on human minds.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ah, so Satan is more powerful than God.   
   >>>   
   >>> No, that's just evidence that God doesn't always if ever give a shit   
   whether   
   >>> we are more influenced by him or Satan.   
   >>   
   >> Why is that evidence of one thing and not the other?   
   >   
   > Because if a person doesn't care about having a relationship with God,   
   or   
   > even would like to have a "relationship" where God does things for them but   
   they   
   > don't accept him as their Lord, it makes sense that God wouldn't help them   
   > against influence from Satan. Why would he?   
      
   Given that you've just argued that we're all mind controlled puppets and   
   my opinion is provided by Satan, I am hardly responsible for it.   
      
      
   >   
      
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