XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality   
   From: ag@just_us.goov   
      
   On 8/11/2015 12:46 PM, David Johnston wrote:   
   > On 8/11/2015 12:42 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>> _________________________________________________________   
   >>>>>> There might not be any sort of God associated with this planet. If   
   >>>>>> not, then   
   >>>>>> "he" isn't going to provide any evidence, regardless of what   
   >>>>>> evidence there is,   
   >>>>>> and that people invent.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> There might BE a God associated with this planet. If so he is   
   >>>>>> OBVIOUSLY not   
   >>>>>> ready to provide verifiable evidence of his existence, even if he   
   >>>>>> did so a   
   >>>>>> number of times in the past in addition to providing however much   
   >>>>>> evidence that   
   >>>>>> can not be verified.   
   >>>>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Nonsense.  My cat sheds all over the house.  What more evidence do you   
   >>>>> need of my cat's existence?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Do you have any idea how you'd like to pretend that has anything   
   >>>> to do with   
   >>>> what you're trying to talk about?   
   >>>   
   >>> What reason do you have to believe that my cat is not a god?  In what   
   >>> way does it violate the parameters you have established for what is and   
   >>> is not a god?   
   >>   
   >>      One of the most basic is that I don't believe a God could be   
   >> native to a   
   >> planet he's God of. There are of course others, but that one is plenty   
   >> good   
   >> enough. You people STILL have nothing.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Ah.  So my cat would then be god of, say, Mars.   
      
   Here are some other crackpot things this fuckwit with whom you're   
   arguing has said in the past, on a different topic (animal "rights").   
   These should give you a good idea of just how shabby an intellect you're   
   trying to engage:   
      
            It's not out of consideration for porcupines   
            that we don't raise them for food. It's because   
            they would be a pain in the ass to raise. We   
            don't raise cattle out of consideration for them   
            either, but because they're fairly easy to   
            raise.   
      
            I am not an extremist about it, and if I thought   
            that all of the animals I eat had terrible   
            lives, I would still eat meat. That is not   
            because I don't care about them at all, but I   
            would just ignore their suffering.   
      
            I would eat animals even if I thought that it was   
            cruel to them, and even if they gained nothing from   
            the deal. Is that what you want me to say? It is true.   
            But that doesn't mean that I can't still like the animals   
            also....   
      
            What I'm saying is unfair for the [nonexistent]   
            animals that *could* get to live, is for people   
            not to consider the fact that they are only keeping   
            these animals from being killed, by keeping   
            them from getting to live at all.   
      
            Then I guess raising billions of animals for   
            food provides billions of beings with a place in   
            eternity. I'm happy to contribute to at least   
            some of it.   
      
            Yes, it is the unborn animals that will be   
            born if nothing prevents that from happening,   
            that would experience the loss if their lives   
            are prevented.   
      
   The fuckwit fancies himself an opponent of animal "rights", but his   
   opposition to it is entirely incoherent, and based on the nonsensical   
   belief that animals coming into existence and "getting to experience   
   life" for a brief time is a benefit to them.  It's not, of course - not   
   even in the most garbled sort of utilitarianism imaginable.   
      
   By the way, this same fuckwit has been making his same stale,   
   discredited, demolished anti-atheism comments in the groups where those   
   quotes above originated since at least early 1999.   
      
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