XPost: alt.atheism, sci.physics, alt.astronomy   
   XPost: alt.astrology   
   From: me@nothere.invalid   
      
   On 24-February-2016 1:39 PM, mur@. wrote:   
   > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:56:45 +0100 (CET), "Arthur"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> In article > 213.giganet.hu>   
   >> je suis charly  wrote:   
   >>> In article <9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com>,   
   >>>   Attila < wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I do not reject scientific theory and have never indicated I do.  At   
   >>>> the same time I do not accept the existence of any creator nor do I   
   >>>> automatically accept the requirement that existence alone proves   
   >>>> something must have been created.  Existence only proves itself and   
   >>>> does nothing toward any origin either to prove one existed or what   
   >>>> that origin was.   
   >>> What you are is so combative that you cannot even cope with the verb   
   "create".   
   >>> You are terrified that if you accept the normal meaning and use of the   
   word, it   
   >>> will obligate you agree to concepts not even under discussion.   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you have a problem with ever verb that allows but does not require an   
   agent?   
   >>> Do you have a similar freak-out at "the Earth's core is made of iron and   
   nickel"   
   >>> because allowing that Earth's core is "made" of anything forces you to   
   accept   
   >>> that there must be a "maker"? You are pathetic.   
   >> Lol!  You nailed him to the wall with his own hammer and nails.   
   >>   
   >>> --   
   >>> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments   
   >>> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from   
   >>> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true   
   >>> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.   
   >      Strong atheism is the most faith based of any religious belief with the   
   > possible exception of strong agnosticism, afaik. Neither has nor ever could   
   have   
   > a shred of evidence to support it in any way, so those who believe in either   
   are   
   > doing no more than putting thair faith in their own particular guess being   
   > correct with no evidence at all to back it up.   
      
   that's exactly right   
      
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