XPost: alt.atheism, sci.skeptic, alt.christnet   
   XPost: alt.religion.islam   
   From: les@shant.tell   
      
   On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:07:15 -0400, mur@. wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:51:58 -0600, Virgil  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 22:24:15 -0400, mur@. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:22:12 -0600, Virgil  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>In article , mur@. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The MOST faith dependant religious belief of them all is unarguably   
   strong   
   >>>>> atheism.   
      
   Really?   
      
   I would argue that a belief there is a god is equal and opposite   
   to the belief there is no god (contratheism) but of course the   
   Christian believes far more than there is just a god.   
      
   So:   
      
   Belief there is a god - needs faith in the absence of evidence.   
      
   Belief that this god and the god depicted in the Bible are one and   
   the same - needs faith in the absence of any evidence to show it is   
   so.   
      
   Belief this god has talked to us through the idiots   
   who wrote the Bible - needs faith, lots of faith in the absence   
   of any evidence to show it is so.   
      
   Belief that Jesus son of only Mary knows existed - needs   
   faith.   
      
   Belief that Mary was a virgin - needs faith in the absence of   
   any evidence it is so.   
      
   Belief that Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead - requires   
   massive faith in the absence of any evidence outside he Bible it   
   actually happened.   
      
   Belief Jesus died to save us from our sins - lots of faith needed   
   in the absense of any evidence it is so.   
      
   Belief that we have an eternal soul-  requires faith in the absence   
   of any evidence it is so.   
      
   Belief there is a heaven and a hell - requires lots of faith in the   
   absense of any evidence it is so   
      
   Beleif that some god judges us on death - needs lots of faith   
   in the absence of any evidence it is so   
      
   Whew that is an incredible amount of faith needed, none of   
   which having any evidence to show it is so   
      
   It makes the alleged faith there is /there is no god look trivial in   
   comparison   
      
      
      
   Les Hellawell   
   Grreting from   
   YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County   
      
   Martin Luther wrote::   
   "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding   
      
   Which means that if Luther practised what he preached   
   nothing he ever said made any sense   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)