XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.philosophy, sci.logic   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: Esque"@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/30/2016 10:47 PM, mur@. wrote:   
   > On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 05:52:48 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer    
   > wrote:   
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   >> The   
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   >>   
   >> So I guess those scientist which have created self replicating proteins are   
   >> really just gods?   
   >   
   >     Your limitted ability to think about things might restict you to   
   something   
   > so lame. A less infantile way of thinking about it would be that they may   
   have   
   > made one of the first baby steps toward moving in the direction of developing   
   > the technology for some humans to eventually become gods, or at least god   
   like.   
   >   
   >> The success of NA and AA programs are false claims, or don't you follow how   
   >> those false statistical claims were made?   
   >   
   >     Your way of thinking about restricts you from considering it for the   
   > evidence it is. If you want to say what you want people to think your escape   
   is   
   > then just do it.   
   >   
   >> As far as medical miracles,  those are the results of hard working doctors,   
   >   
   >     Of course any child could cling to that being the only possibility with   
   all   
   > their faith, but I don't even make the attempt like you do, and have no   
   reason   
   > to at all.   
   >   
   >> not an imaginary sky pixies intercession.   
   >   
   >     The fact that you can't comprehend why God would not reside on this   
   planet   
   > if he exists clearly reveals the horribly low level you're mentally capable   
   of   
   > "thinking" about the possibility of his existence. It's like on a moron   
   level,   
   > or at "best" a severely retarded level.   
   >   
   >> Last there are no accepted miracles.   
   >   
   >     Your blatant lies can't make people stop accepting them.   
   >   
   >> Only folkish and stupid people that   
   >> out of their ignorance swallow bullshit.   
   >   
   >     You have shown yourself to be on a severely retarded level at "best"   
   > regarding this topic. YOU have shown it clearly, and without question.   
   >   
   It's impossible to respond to everything that people claim, but in   
   the final analysis the issue always comes down to does God exist and   
   where is the proof? But there can be no proof in either science or   
   theology. Proof belongs in math, not science and not theology. But is   
   there any kind of evidence for God and creation independent of the   
   Bible? There is no direct empirical evidence, however there is   
   scientific evidence which can certainly be seen as _indirect_ evidence   
   for creation of the universe and life on at least one planet we know of.   
   This is totally independent of anything in the Bible or any religious   
   material.   
      
   Indirect evidence is not unknown in scientific circles. Indeed   
   just about everything known about the atom is through indirect   
   evidence.   
   We don't see electrons, however there is indirect evidence they exist.   
   Scientist had indirect evidence for the existence of a particular   
   fundamental particle since the 1960 of called Higgs Boson (the god   
   particle). It was discovered to be real in 2912 at Cern. There is   
   only indirect evidence of the matter in the earth's core. Tracks   
   in earth's strata is indirect evidence that some animal pass by   
   a certain location in the past. So, in the same sense, there is   
   indirect evidence for creation of the universe and life and thus a   
   Creator. Such indirect evidence can be seen in astronomy, and   
   astrophysicist, the preponderance of stasis in the fossil record and by   
   the existence of  homeobox genes which are ubiquitous through out the   
   animal kingdom..   
      
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