XPost: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: sylvia@not.at.this.address   
      
   On 30/04/2016 7:12 AM, Dale wrote:   
   > correct me if I am wrong, but as far as evidence goes the only thing I   
   > have heard is that amino acids can be made into DNA, not even   
   > non-sentient one celled organisms   
      
   DNA is not made of amino acids.   
      
   >   
   > also, this is not actually abiogenesis because it involves the   
   > biogenesis of the scientist   
      
   The experiments are an attempt to show that life could arise   
   spontaneously in the conditions present on early Earth.   
      
   We are never going to see life arise on Earth in such conditions without   
   some kind of human intervention because those conditions no longer exist   
   on Earth.   
      
   In any case, we're never going to see life arise on Earth when it did,   
   because that was a long time ago. If you're looking for cast iron proof   
   that it actually arose spontaneously, rather than evidence that it could   
   have, you're never going to get it. That does not prevent it from being   
   a plausible theory.   
      
   >   
   > another point, is that all ingredients, the periodic table, etc.,   
   > could have come from biogeneis and an assumption of abiogenesis is   
   > made in current experiments   
   >   
   > such an assumption would involve the need for statistics and   
   > probabilities   
   >   
   > life coming from life, biogenesis, has some much more evidence   
      
   Hardly, given that so far attempts to create life have not been successful.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
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