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   "Wm. Esque" <"Wm. to Jeanne Douglas   
   Re: no evidence for abiogenesis?   
   03 May 16 16:15:43   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.philosophy, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: Esque"@gmail.com   
      
   On 5/3/2016 6:01 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >  "Wm. Esque" <"Wm. Esque"@gmail.com> wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/2/2016 12:24 PM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:   
   >>> Dale  wrote:   
   >>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:44:36 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> "If life arose relatively quickly on Earth Š then it could be common in   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> universe."[38]   
   >>>>   
   >>>> didn't add, life could have always existed, no biogenesis or no   
   >>>> abiogenesis   
   >>>   
   >>> Not easy for life to have existed when the whole planet was a bubbling   
   >>> molten   
   >>> blob.   
   >>>   
   >> True, there must have been a period when life did not exist on this   
   >> planet. OTOH, ours is a second or third generation star and solar   
   >> system. The universe is 13.7 billion years old.   
   >>   
   >> The earth and solar system is known to be 4.5 billion years old.   
   >> So the universe existed some 9.2 billion years before the earth   
   >> coalesced from dead stars matter. Life appear on the earth about 3.8   
   >> billion years ago, some 1.5 - 2 billion years after it's formation, then   
   >> it's not unreasonable to suggest that could life might have appeared   
   >> during the 9.2 billion years prior to our solar system formation. After   
   >> arising in a previous generation of stars and solar systems, this life   
   >> could have migrated to the newly formed earth. This is not scientific   
   >> because it's not testable. Nevertheless, why could it not be a real   
   >> possibility? There are an number of hypothesis suggesting   
   >> that life came from space.   
   >   
   > It makes a whole lot more sense than "goddidit".   
   >   
   There had to be two types of stars whose explosion created the   
   debris from which the earth and solar system coalesced, a   
   supernova which created heavy matter (above fe.) and a star   
   lower in the main sequence where iron is the final element   
   created within the star explodes. There should be remnants of   
   these stars nearby so where are they? There is a point in space   
   where every 26 million years average there is a extinction period;   
   sometimes massive extinctions. Ie Ordovician-Silurian, Permian   
   thisaaic - Jurassic.  This is the nemesis (death star) hypothesis.   
   Is it possible this "star" (if it exist) is a remnant of the star   
   explosion which gave up our solar system?   
      
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