XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: alt.philosophy   
   From: dale@dalekelly.org   
      
   On Sun, 29 May 2016 21:06:19 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer   
    wrote:   
      
   >Dale  wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 29 May 2016 18:14:58 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Dale  wrote:   
   >>>> Affirming the consequent   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> if an atheistic cosmos then some atheistic parts   
   >>>>   
   >>>> some atheistic parts   
   >>>> an atheistic cosmos   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> applies to a recent discussion where a poster said abiogenesis (life   
   >>>> from non-life) "had" to happen, whereas we have never observed it and   
   >>>> observe biogenesis (life from life)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> also, if an experimenter "could" create life from non-life, the   
   >>>> experimenter is the creator, is alive and life is the causal factor,   
   >>>> there for life from life   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Who or what created god?   
   >>>   
   >>> The fallacy of circular references.   
   >>   
   >> I don't know, I'm agnostic   
   >   
   >That's doubtful..   
   >To rephrase the question   
   >   
   >Who created the creator?   
      
   the answer avoiding religion could be eternal panspermia, perhaps   
   within a multi-verse   
      
   a creator doesn't have to be religious, even so, could have always   
   existed   
   --   
   Dale   
   http://www.dalekelly.org   
      
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