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   Message 212,774 of 213,516   
   Kelsey Bjarnason to mur   
   Re: definition of sentience   
   06 Jun 16 20:58:24   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.philosophy   
   From: kbjarnason@gmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:57:01 -0400, mur wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 21:57:51 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 12:57:04 -0400, Dale wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:49:38 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:49:34 -0400, Dale wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> falls under the category that materialism and empiricism might not   
   >>>>> be able to have a "theory of everything" and that a "theory of   
   >>>>> anything"   
   >>>>> and spiritual essence might be necessary to explain the experience   
   >>>>> of sentience   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Or, we might require a theory explaining why jelly beans cause   
   >>>>everything else to exist.  If you're going to throw out random   
   >>>>nonsense,   
   >>>>everyone else is allowed to as well... and with just as much reason to   
   >>>>take it seriously.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Spiritual essence".  Right...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> I said "might" ...   
   >>   
   >>So did I.  I just did it in a vastly more meaningful fashion than you   
   >>did.   
   >   
   >     You did it like someone who can't consider the possibility that   
   >     there could   
   > possibly be any beings in the entire universe who could be considered   
   > gods,   
      
   No, I did it like someone who suggests that if you want to invoke magic,   
   at least have the balls and the intellectual integrity to do so   
   honestly,  and if you want any if it regarded as anything beyond bullshit   
   spewed by credulous nutbags, trot out the supporting evidence for it.   
      
   As I said, with *no* reason offered to take it seriously, there's no   
   reason to take it seriously, or to treat any other crackpot claim as   
   equally valid.   
      
   Not my fault these boneheaded morons can't come up with a shred of   
   anything sane to support their delusional fantasies.  If they don't like   
   being treated like idiots, they should either not say idiotic things, or   
   should demonstrate those things to not be idiotic - via evidence.   
      
   Instead, they whine.   
      
   Fuck 'em.  Spoiled toddlers, the lot.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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