XPost: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.philosophy, sci.logic   
   From: dale@dalekelly.org   
      
   On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:37:09 -0500, Christopher A. Lee   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:58:08 -0400, Dale  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:25:53 -0700 (PDT), JTEM    
   >>wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Evolution is a result, not a force   
   >>>or even a process. As a matter of   
   >>>fact, evolution isn't even the most   
   >>>common result. Extinction is.   
   >>>   
   >>>Extinction happens far more often   
   >>>then the evolution of a new species.   
   >>>   
   >>>Oh. Anything that can not be predicted   
   >>>is effectively "Random," even if in   
   >>>theory it is the inescapable consequence   
   >>>of the coming together of any number of   
   >>>variables.   
   >   
   >No,   
   >   
   >It can be weighted random, random within constraints, etc.   
   >   
   >>>Put another way:  We can't necessarily tell   
   >>>the difference between "Random" and   
   >>>"Extremely Complex." From our perspective   
   >>>they can be one and the same.   
   >   
   >Bullshit.   
   >   
   >>but can causality and randomness coexist?   
   >   
   >Yes.   
      
      
   the set of  causality(OR)randomness would have minimum ordinality   
   because of the random elements, it would also have maximum ordinality   
   because each causal element lies in a chain of cause and effect and   
   can be mapped onto itself   
      
   you can't have two ordinalities, since I observe causality and not   
   randomness I pick what I said in the original post   
      
      
   >   
   >There is a correlation between exposure to ultra-violet and melanoma.   
   >But everybody who has excessive exposure to the sun doesn't get   
   >Melanoma.   
   >   
   >Please engage brain before  operating mouth.   
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