XPost: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.philosophy   
   From: dale@dalekelly.org   
      
   On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:24:43 -0400, raven1   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:13:35 -0400, Dale  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:53:40 -0400, raven1   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:13:51 -0400, Dale  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>if there is a causal chain of events, shouldn't all events be   
   >>>>predictable   
   >>>   
   >>>To an omniscient being, perhaps, but we have enough difficulty with a   
   >>>three-body problem, much less anything more complex, like predicting   
   >>>the weather next Tuesday. See The Butterfly Effect, Chaos theory, et   
   >>>al.   
   >>>   
   >>>> and all elements of things be material   
   >>>   
   >>>As opposed to what?   
   >>>   
   >>>> and empirically   
   >>>>found by induction?   
   >>>   
   >>>Empirical induction is a tricky thing. See David Hume.   
   >>>   
   >>>>referring to evolution   
   >>>>   
   >>>>am I right that nothing empirical can be random?   
   >>>   
   >>>I have no idea what you mean by that. What definition of "empirical"   
   >>>are you using? And what does it have to do with evolution?   
   >>   
   >>empirical by means of material testing of inference   
   >   
   >Your tendency to obfuscate, rather than clarify, is becoming tedious.   
   >(Translation: What's your bloody point?)   
      
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