XPost: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   From: Barry@saymyname.com   
      
   On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:46:23 -0500, "R. Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   wrote:   
      
   >On 14/11/2016 11:12 PM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:36:12 -0500, "R. Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 13/11/2016 2:41 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 02:40:53 -0500, "R. Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 8/11/2016 11:45 PM, mur@. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Try to explain WHAT type of evidence you think there should be, WHERE   
   you think   
   >>>>>> it should be, WHY you think it should be available to humans, and WHEN   
   you think   
   >>>>>> it should have been or should be made available, if there truly is a God   
   >>>>>> associated with this planet.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> There is evidence available, how this evidence is interpreted   
   >>>>> depends upon prior considerations. But one certainty is the   
   >>>>> fact that the universe is _fine_tuned_ for our existence.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Our existence is finely tuned for the universe.   
   >>>>   
   >>> I will acknowledge the distinct possibility that life was not the end   
   >>> game nor the purpose of the universe.   
   >>> But why is there a universe given the number of very precise parameter   
   >>> that 2 dozen constants have? On person can win the lottery one   
   >>> time, and someone does, but suppose the same player won the lottery   
   >>> 2 dozen times - Would you say this is an accident, just good luck   
   >>> or what. That is exactly what happened with the the universe. It   
   >>> was just luck that the right values for the dozen of fundamental   
   >>> cosmological constants needed and somehow arrived at, which were exactly   
   >>> the values needed for there to be a universe.   
   >>   
   >> I don't know the answer and neither do you.   
   >> However life evolved to suit the conditions.   
   >>   
   >This is a truism assuming the universe is eternal. But it explains   
   >nothing regarding the universe itself and how it actually came about.   
      
   It assumes nothing but does note our lack of knowedge.   
      
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