From: Jones"@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/13/2018 12:34 AM, mur@. wrote:   
   > On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT), George Dance    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 12:47:20 PM UTC-4, Jon Johnson wrote:   
   >>> Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been   
   >>> associated with are among the most likely professional to be   
   >>> supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by   
   >>> scientist.   
   >>   
   >> So who's the designer - the Christian god, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or   
   anything   
   >   
   >      As hard as it is for you to comprehend the answer is anything.   
   >   
   >> in between   
   >   
   >      To get as far as anything would be farther than you've ever gotten.   
   >   
   >> - and who designed it?   
   >   
   >      To get as far as the possibility that any "who" has ever "designed" or   
   had   
   > any deliberate influence on life on any planet(s) anywhere in the universe   
   would   
   > be a huge step for you, and obviously a necessary one before you could ever   
   > learn to think about things like this in a realistic way. You would have to   
   grow   
   > WAY beyond your mental limitations of honestly believing the Flying Spaghetti   
   > Monster is as likely a type of being as any other to have deliberate   
   influence   
   > on life on any planet(s). A first step would be to try to figure out how ANY   
   > type of being could be a more realistic possibility than the stupid Spaghetti   
   > Monster.   
   >   
   I would think the best option would be to discuss something that people   
   generally think is real, rather than something imaginary not known to be   
   real.   
   Secondly, It's possible to find fossils in rocks and know that something   
   was alive and real. However, no one expects to find a thing of solid   
   materials and think, I've found evidence of God.   
   Conseuently, if God exist, then there must be evidence of some action or   
   some result found which points to the possibility of a creator God.   
      
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