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   From: nomail@invalid.invalid   
      
   In article ,   
   twang@the.noodle says...   
   >   
   > Skeeter wrote:   
   > > twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > > Skeeter wrote:   
   > > > > In article , sylvia@email.invalid   
   says...   
   > > > > > On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Everything is the consequence of something.  No thing can create   
   itself.   
   > > > > > >   It needs a cause.  Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No   
   thing   
   > > > > > > can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being."   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Sylvia.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > He created it?   
   > > >   
   > > > Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to?   
   > >   
   > > It wouldn't be eternal if it was created.   
   >   
   > So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an   
   > eternal universe.   
      
      
   Twist it around as usual. If it was created it cannot be eternal.   
   >   
   > So much for the omnipotent deity thing.   
      
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