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   From: jenn@hmplc.com   
      
   In article <110120041343317236%gofig@mac.com>, Go Fig    
   wrote:   
      
   > In article , Jenn   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > > In article <110120041250054857%gofig@mac.com>, Go Fig    
   > > wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > In article , devil   
   > > >  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:08:25 +0000, MTV wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > None wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Former Treasury Secretary who got canned, supposedly for not   
   > > > > > supporting   
   > > > > > the   
   > > > > > tax cut or being a bush team player. "Tell all" book just out. Use a   
   > > > > > few   
   > > > > > "grains of salt."    
   > > > >   
   > > > > Sure.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > OTOH, it has been well-known that the story is true.  They are on   
   > > > > record   
   > > > > from even before the election that they wanted to go after Saddam.   
   > > >   
   > > > The U.S. Congress is on record, by vote, for regime change in Iraq   
   > > > since 1998, that was also the position of all the U.S. Presidents since   
   > > > then.   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > I love the number of nimrods who think that attacking another country   
   > > pre-emptively is just business as usual.  Why if this is our 'right'   
   > > isn't it the right of any other country e.g. China vis a vis Taiwan --   
   > > India vis a vis Pakistan or vice versa etc etc and why isn't the right   
   > > of any of the countries whose governments we have intruded on against us?   
   > >   
   > > aggressive war -- rather than defensive war -- has not been our   
   > > tradition in the past century and this emphasis on preventing war rather   
   > > than pre-emptive war kept us alive through the cold war.  It is a   
   > > dangerous foolish game that these cowardly chickenhawks are playing with   
   > > our country.  And it sets dangerous precedents as well as entirely   
   > > destroying our moral authority to try to prevent war elsewhere.   
   >   
   >   
   > If on the end of your block, there was a house that was dealing drugs   
   > and you went on record condemning this... would your moral authority be   
   > undermined because you don't want drug dealers on your block ?   
   >   
   > Is this block and neighborhood in jeopardy because of the drug dealer ?   
   >   
   > If you sat back and did nothing or even just condemned it, would the   
   > problem just go away on its own ?   
   >   
   > If you stood out there with a video camera recording everyone that went   
   > into that drug house, would your moral authority be undermined ?   
   >   
   > jay   
   > Sun Jan 11, 2004   
   > mailto:gofig@mac.com   
      
   so America has a right to invade any country it feels like invading?   
   And this will lead to a better world for us and for everyone else?  or   
   heck, even for us?   
      
   Saddam Hussein posed no particular threat outside his borders -- our job   
   now to tell everyone in the world how to run their countries?  Look how   
   well our previous attempts have worked out in Chile, in Iran, in Vietnam   
   etc etc   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)