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   From: sjoerdhahahaha@xs4all.nl   
      
   "Gregory Morrow"  schreef in   
   bericht news:PIkDc.29184$Y3.18160@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...   
   >   
   > David Horne wrote:   
   >   
   > > Sjoerd  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > My apologies. I should have phrased it differently. I am advocating   
   the   
   > > > unlimited right of return to Israel by Palestinians (after all, it is   
   > their   
   > > > (the Palestinians') country).   
   > >   
   > > Again, you need to learn a little more about the history of the area to   
   > > understand how this would work in reality. For a start, there is also a   
   > > Palestinian diaspora, and if you're going to start sending Israelis   
   > > "back" because they're not originally from the area, well that applies   
   > > to many Palestinians too. How exactly would you solve that? A two-state   
   > > solution is by far the better one.   
   > >   
   > > > If the Israelis want to stay and live in peace   
   > > > with the Palestinians (under probably majority Palestinian rule),   
   that's   
   > > > fine with me. If they don't like to stay, I have offered my solution.   
   > >   
   > > "Final solution" more like. Europe didn't do a great job protecting jews   
   > > during the 20th century, and what you propose would lead to a bloodbath.   
   > > Fortunately, most people from non-muslims countries don't support that   
   > > position.   
   > >   
   >   
   >   
   > You realise, David, that Sjoerd is a notorious Jew and Israel hater, don't   
   > you?  He's been repeating his same old mantra here for years....   
      
   I have *never* written anything negative about Jews, Gregory, as you very   
   well know.  You use a very old trick that supporters of Israel's policies   
   use all the time: criticism of the policies of the state of Israel = hate of   
   Jews. Fortunately, there are millions of Jews who criticise Israel's   
   policies. Are they Jew-haters, too?   
      
      
   > I've tried to enlighten him in a gentle and friendly manner (at heart I   
   know   
   > he is a pretty decent fellow) but he stubbornly clings to the same   
   > outlandish beliefs.  One does what one can, but well.... :-)   
      
   I don't know why, but your otherwise seemingly bright mind turns to black   
   whenever Israel is discussed. You have either been indoctrinated by the   
   generally very pro-Israel American media, or -more likely- you have   
   developed such a hate of Arabs and Muslims after Sept. 11, 2001 that you now   
   believe in your own fairy tales.   
      
   >   
   > I find it rather amusing that Sjoerd is always crying about the poor   
   > "Palestinians" but that he jets around the world to sundry exotic locales   
   in   
   > the luxury of Business Class.  One would think that he'd be willing to   
   > "sacrifice" and be downgraded to the indignities of lowly economy, telling   
   > his employer to deposit  the difference in fares into the bank accounts of   
   > Yasser Arafat or Al Queda....but I gather that's just typical louche   
   > European hypocrisy for you!  I mean isn't he willing to do with a bit less   
   > legroom and endure dodgy Y class catering so that his "Palestinian"   
   friends   
   > have more money with which to blow up innocent Israeli and other   
   > civilians...???   
      
   As I have written many times before, I am against terrorism - Israeli AND   
   Palestinian. So I would never fund either party.   
      
   > If he lived in the US he'd be a *great* Republican....   
      
   I fortunately don't live in the US, but I know I'd never be a republican.   
      
   Sjoerd   
      
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