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   pothead to Franco Luciano   
   Re: Daniel Penny did 'what we would want   
   02 Nov 24 13:49:42   
   
   XPost: nyc.politics, alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics   
   From: pothead@snakebite.com   
      
   On 2024-11-02, Franco Luciano  wrote:   
   > Google and Yahoo have sanitized all pictures of Dafna Yoran within the last   
   48 hours.   
   >   
   > Daniel Penny “did for others what we would want someone to do for us”   
   — defending panicked subway riders from an “unhinged” Jordan Neely —   
   when he put the troubled homeless man in a fatal chokehold, his defense   
   attorney said Friday.   
   >   
   > Penny’s lawyer Thomas Kenniff — during opening remarks at the former   
   Marine’s high-profile Manhattan manslaughter trial — painted his client as   
   someone who felt compelled to intervene to ensure other riders weren’t   
   harmed by the raving Neely,    
   making him not quite a hero but definitely not a killer.   
   >   
   > “This is a case about a young man who did for others what we would want   
   someone to do for us,” Kenniff told the jury of 12 Manhattanites who will   
   decide whether Penny, 26, “recklessly” caused Neely’s death last May.   
   >   
   > Prosecutors, in their own opening statements, argued Penny was indeed   
   “criminally reckless,” holding a 30-year-old Neely down for nearly six   
   minutes — despite knowing his actions could be fatal — because he didn’t   
   “recognize his humanity.“   
   >   
   > “Mr. Penny was so reckless with Mr. Neely’s life because he didn’t   
   recognize his humanity,” Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Dafna Yoran   
   told jurors.   
   >   
   > Kenniff, during his 20-minute remarks, said his client heard Neely say “I   
   will kill” on the crowded F train and “there was only one thing that   
   Daniel Penny could do.”   
   >   
   > When a “seething, psychotic” Neely first got into the northbound train   
   on May 1, 2023, he demanded food and money from other riders and spoke about   
   going to Rikers Island and being sentenced to life imprisonment — before   
   threatening to “kill,”   
    Kenniff claimed.   
   >   
   > This all while the passengers’ “fear turns to outright panic” —   
   including a mother who huddled behind a bench to protect her baby, the defense   
   lawyer said.   
   >   
   > Penny “summoned the courage” to act, and while “that doesn’t have to   
   make him a hero … it doesn’t make him a killer,” Kenniff argued.   
   >   
   > But Yoran, during her 40-minute openings, blasted Penny for going “way too   
   far” when he “took it upon himself to take down Mr. Neely, to neutralize   
   him.”   
   >   
   > Penny kept Neely “in a deadly chokehold” for five minutes and 53 seconds   
   after nearly all of the train’s passengers had fled when the train’s car   
   doors opened onto the platform, she said.   
   >   
   > The prosecutor said Penny’s “indifference towards Mr. Neely, the man   
   whose life he was literally holding in his hands, caused him to disregard the   
   most basic precautions and needlessly kill him, long after any threat he had   
   posed had already    
   dissipated.”   
   >   
   > Yoran laid out the evidence the DA’s office will present against Penny at   
   trial, including two videos filmed by bystanders — one of which showed the   
   “life being snuffed out” of Neely, which the prosecutor called “the most   
   critical piece of    
   evidence at trial.”   
   >   
   > The first witness called to testify — in the trial that is expected to   
   last around four weeks — was NYPD Officer Teodoro Tejada, who responded to   
   the Broadway-Lafayette station, where the train was stopped, searched Neely   
   for a weapon, but only    
   found a muffin in his pocket.   
   >   
   > Jurors were shown footage from Tejada’s body camera, showing medics   
   attempting to revive a lifeless Neely using various tools including, chest   
   compressions, CPR, a defibrillator and even a shot of the drug Narcan.   
   >   
   > Tejada testified that Neely initially had a “faint pulse” when first   
   responders arrived — but that officers could no longer find a pulse minutes   
   later.   
   >   
   > The video also depicted a composed Penny standing by calmly, chewing   
   something like gum while the EMTs worked on Neely.   
   >   
   > Neely’s dad, Andre Zachery, cried as he sat in the courtroom gallery   
   watching the video showing his son lying dead on the dirty train car floor.   
   >   
   > Jurors heard later in the day from two more police officers who arrived on   
   the chaotic scene, and two witnesses from the MTA, who were called to talk   
   about the transit authority’s inner workings.   
   >   
   > Penny faces up to 15 years behind bars if convicted.   
   >   
   > He has pleaded not guilty and has maintained his actions were not racially   
   motivated.   
   >   
   > Kenniff has previously argued Neely’s toxicology reports confirmed he had   
   the drug K2 in his system when he died and was “experiencing a psychotic   
   episode” when he boarded the train.   
   >   
   > Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator had a long history of mental   
   health illness, and was on a city roster of people on the streets who   
   desperately needed help, The Post previously reported. The city Department of   
   Homeless Services’ “Top 50   
    list details which people are cycling in and out of homeless shelters and   
   mental health treatment centers.   
   >   
   > As Penny walked into the lower Manhattan courthouse just before 10 a.m.   
   Friday, he was met by a group of Black Lives Matter protesters demanding his   
   conviction.   
   >   
   > The group — holding signs saying “Justice for Jordan Neely” and   
   “Convict Daniel Penny” — variously chanted phrases including, “subway   
   strangler,” “being homeless is not a crime,” and “say his name: Jordan   
   Neely.”   
   >   
   > Neely family lawyer Donte Mills said Penny was trained as a Marine in   
   martial arts, as well as first aid, but failed to use it to help Neely.   
   >   
   > “He used his martial arts training to kill Jordan Neely and did not use   
   his first aid training at all because he didn’t think that Jordan was worth   
   it,” Mills claimed outside the courthouse.   
   >   
   > “He was worth hurting, but he wasn’t worth trying to save. That’s why   
   he’s going to be found guilty after this trial.”   
   >   
   > Neely's family did nothing to help him.  They dumped him on the street and   
   made him a welfare recipient.   
   >   
   > https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/us-news/daniel-penny-did-what-we   
   would-want-someone-to-do-for-us-when-he-intervened-to-stop-ranti   
   g-jordan-neely-on-nyc-subway-lawyer/   
      
   *IF*, and that's a *BIG IF*, the jury is comprised of average New Yorkers who   
   ride public transit every day and are aware of how dangerous it has become, he   
   will never get convicted.   
      
   If the jury is comprised of UWS or UES bleeding liberal, elite types who   
   rarely leave their   
   overpriced, safe neighborhoods and when they do it's Uber or Lyft, then   
   he is in trouble.   
      
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   pothead   
      
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