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   useapen to All   
   Stop. Punching. Right.   
   31 Oct 25 07:24:51   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.trump, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
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   The United States, Great Britain, France, and other Western allies aligned   
   with the most prolific mass murderer in history, Joseph Stalin, to defeat   
   Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany in World War II. There are valid points of   
   disagreement with that choice, but most historians consider it a good one   
   because, right or wrong, at the time they considered Nazism and the other   
   Axis powers a greater existential threat to the world than communism and   
   the Soviet Union.   
      
   Were they correct? Let’s revisit that later, but for now, you just need to   
   understand that the Allies happily sided with one monster in order to   
   defeat another one, and the world writ large was OK with it.   
      
   Fast forward to today, and we face a greater existential threat than any   
   form of fascism ever was or ever will be: leftism. That’s a bold   
   contention, I know, but I believe it’s an accurate one. Leftism, at its   
   root, continually makes war on the God-ordained social order by employing   
   various tactics like feminism, gender ideology, class warfare,   
   egalitarianism, and many more to rip apart the traditional nuclear family,   
   the building block of all cohesive, safe societies. In doing so, it   
   destroys the social fabric that made Western civilization the greatest   
   mankind has ever built.   
      
   It’s also easily transferable across cultures and societies. Once leftism   
   gets its blue and pink dyed tentacles in, things begin to disintegrate   
   fast. Economic progress stagnates, inflation soars, infrastructure   
   crumbles, and people’s lives progressively get worse as the powers-that-be   
   obsess over woke BS. Anarcho-tyranny rules the day as emboldened criminals   
   prosper while law-abiding citizens are punished for attempting to protect   
   themselves and their property. Freedoms once taken for granted, like   
   speech and self-defense, are lost, never to return.   
      
   The end result of this path is, of course, full-on socialism and,   
   eventually, the ideology responsible for the most human suffering in all   
   of history - communism. And then the real killing starts, as we’ve seen   
   countless times over the past century and beyond. So yeah, leftism is a   
   threat greater than anything humans have ever faced, and it should   
   absolutely be opposed at every turn by anyone who values preserving some   
   form of free society for their children and grandchildren.   
      
   Thus, using the same logic the Allies used in World War II, any enemy of   
   leftism should be, at least tangentially, an ‘ally’ of ours. And just like   
   Great Britain wouldn’t have sent a sortie of planes past Germany to bomb   
   the Soviet Union, as evil as they were at the time, we shouldn’t ‘bomb’   
   our allies. In other words, don’t punch right.   
      
   Unfortunately, this is a tough concept for many on our side to understand.   
   James Lindsay, for example, has an entire gatekeeping grift going whereby   
   he labels people he disagrees with, particularly on foreign policy, as   
   “woke right.” This line of thinking has people like Tucker Carlson, for   
   example, lumped right in there with actual neo-Nazis, and people like Matt   
   Walsh are considered something akin to Nazi collaborators simply for   
   refusing to condemn them. (If you missed this entire brouhaha on X over   
   the past year or so, just know it’s been a whole thing.)   
      
   What I’m arguing for here is as big a tent as humanly possible. Sure,   
   we’ll have plenty of differences on plenty of key things, but if your goal   
   is to defeat the left, you generally will have a friend in me. And the   
   people who seek to divide the right by calling people who take   
   controversial positions they don’t like ‘woke’ are doing more harm than   
   good. Sure, let’s debate these issues, but let’s do it with grace and   
   humility and the recognition that, at the end of the day, we’re on the   
   same side.   
      
   I know what you’re thinking. Are there people we shouldn’t ally with or   
   even talk to? What about those actual neo-Nazis or KKK members (if they   
   really exist and aren’t just cosplaying Feds)? Well, the first thing to   
   realize here is that in many cases, these ARE plants meant to make the   
   right look bad. But no, not all. Sometimes, genuine people who mean well   
   get deceived. Sometimes the left calls so many good things ‘fascist’ that   
   good people just assume they might as well BE an actual fascist.   
      
   Even in these cases, you can associate with or refuse to associate with   
   whoever you like without actually punching right. You can express your   
   disagreement with certain tactics or beliefs without condemning the people   
   who hold them. If someone is an actual antisemite, for example, it is far   
   better to patiently address their concerns, as Jesus would have done,   
   instead of condemning and writing them off, as the Pharisees would have   
   done. Maybe their heart is in the right place and they just need some   
   guidance. If so, taking Jesus’s approach might just turn them into a far   
   more effective soldier for our side than they ever would have been   
   otherwise.   
      
   Circling back to that question about whether the Allies were right to   
   align with the Soviet Union during World War II, I would argue they   
   probably weren’t, that allowing the Nazis and the Communists to duke it   
   out in the East would have severely weakened and neutered both to the   
   degree that an Iron Curtain over Europe imposed by the fascists or the   
   commies would have never been possible. But who really knows, right? The   
   great irony is that the communists, once among our closest allies, were   
   always the greatest existential threat.   
      
   Draw the line where you want, but I believe you should draw it as loosely   
   as possible and be as charitable as possible to well-meaning people who   
   have some bad ideas but just want to fight the left. Why? It’s not just   
   the Christian thing to do, it’s also the best strategy. Because the battle   
   against the left, now more than ever, is a battle of good vs evil, of   
   sanity versus insanity, of order versus chaos, and we’re going to need all   
   the help we can get to have any shot at winning it.   
      
   When that fight is finally won, the hand-wringers, the gatekeepers, and   
   the ‘woke-right’ accusers can at least do their thing without causing   
   actual harm to the cause they profess.   
      
   https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2025/10/27/stop-punching-   
   right-n2665493   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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