From: dfreemans@live.com   
      
   On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:15:10 PM UTC-5, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 16:44:52 -0800 (PST), Debra wrote:   
   >    
   > > Vincent Maycock is a poster at talk.origins,    
   > > which I made a post at recently.   
   >    
   > Yeah, I post there regularly. The opinions of a couple of the other   
   > regulars about Debra are as follows:   
   >    
   > a)  she is off her rocker   
   > b)  she  is a well-known annoyance over at alt.anagrams   
   >    
   > Most likely the opinion a)  was supposed to be only half-serious, and   
   > I don't know enough about alt.anagrams to tell whether the second   
   > opinion was valid.     
   >    
   > A summary of my main problems with Debra would be:   
   >    
   > a)  her interest in and respect for the famous quack and charlatan,   
   > Edgar Cayce   
   >    
   > b) possible interest in the nonsense of reincarnation   
   >    
   > c) some of her anagrams don't make any sense; for example, she once   
   > anagrammed the name of talk.origins poster   
   >    
   > INEZ    
   >    
   > into    
   >    
   > N Z, IE    
   >    
   > and tried to claim this had something to do with "falling asleep at   
   > the wheel."    Of course, the only one of those letters that has   
   > anything to do with falling asleep at the wheel or anywhere else is Z,   
   > (which I suppose would be short for the idiom zzzzzzz, used to   
   > represent sleep), but beyond that ... the anagram simply makes no   
   > sense.    
   >    
   > d)  I think Debra might have drifted into the nonsense of believing   
   > there is "meaning" latent in some anagrams, independent of the meaning   
   > that human anagrammers deliberately put there, although I'm not sure   
   > that she's always consistent in her views on this matter   
   >    
   > e)  she may be confused about the meaning of the word "transposition,"   
   > and evidently uses it for any anagram that she doesn't like, which is   
   > no at correct usage of the word "transposition"   
   >    
   > Debra's lone redeeming trait that I am aware of is her interest in   
   > anagramming.     
   >    
   > > I became aware of talk.origins in early 2013   
   > > when I clicked-on the link to see stalker   
   > > JEERS GOD? ANAL LOUSE ~ EARLE DOUGLAS JONES   
   > > other activity.   
   >    
   > No, earl is not a stalker.    
   >    
   > JAR DE SEASON? ... ULE LOG.   
   >    
   > > Just as everyone can thank Judson Thomas Pewther   
   > > that I post at alt.anagrams, everyone can thank   
   > > Earle Douglas Jones that I post at talk.origins.   
   > >   
   > > Debra Dee Freeman   
      
   There are already at least several Usenet people    
   obsessed with ME, and I feel bad enough about this    
   already [must be a miserable thing to become   
   obsessed with another person]. I hate to think   
   that you are now another one.   
      
   The purpose of Usenet is to make a post if you   
   have something new to say, or else to respond   
   to another persons news if you have something   
   to say about that news - or, at least, that is   
   the purpose of the groups alt.anagrams and   
   talk.origins.   
      
   Earle Douglas Jones IS a stalker - or at least   
   he has stalked me and my threads at alt.anagrams   
   for more than four years now. He contacted me   
   first, and has continued to contact me after   
   I asked him to stay off of my threads once he   
   ignored Netiquette.   
      
   Is there some good reason why you misquoted my   
   anagram of INEZ? In reality, after Inez wrote   
      
   > Debra Freeman is clearly a Barman Feeder    
   > (presumably your excessive drinking pays    
   > the barman's bills) and A Bad Meaner Ref.    
      
   then I wrote   
      
   > INEZ, N Z? IE ...    
   >   
   > Being asleep at the wheel ["Z"], and    
   > falling short ["..."], do not bode well    
   > regarding you Inez.    
      
   and then gave this explanation   
      
   > 1. The anagram I published is the only one    
   > that I could find; 2. Difference between you and I is    
   > that I only published a negative anagram of your name    
   > after you did so regarding my name first [well, your    
   > non-anagram crap, really]; 3. Ellipsis (plural ellipses;    
   > from the Ancient Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, "omission"    
   > or "falling short") is what I had to put for the only    
   > anagram that I could find, and once I saw that negative    
   > connotation I recognized that a negative connotation    
   > for the Z as well is not only what would make sense    
   > but, if you ask me, is probably what is also actually    
   > true about you, and the negative "asleep at the wheel"    
   > is what came into my mind [Note: I am surprised you are    
   > not familiar with a Z being utilized to illustrate that    
   > a person is sleeping, and also there is the expression    
   > that one says such as "I gotta get my Zs"; true that    
   > there is usually or maybe always more than one Z, and    
   > the expression is a plural Z too, but personally    
   > I do not think that should prevent the possibility    
   > that the one Z does represent sleep and in your case    
   > being asleep at the wheel!]; 4. Unlike me, you had    
   > other choices AND many of them are positive ones; for    
   > example, you wrote BAD MEANER REF., yet REFEREED BAD! AMEN!    
   > is available, and pretty much what I have been doing    
   > this entire thread so far!; and you wrote BARMAN FEEDER    
   > yet FAB MENDER? DEAREE ~ DEBRA DEE FREEMAN is available,    
   > and if you were going for humor you could have written    
   > DEMAND A FREE BEER instead.    
      
   As far as the regulars at talk.origins, the only kind and   
   intelligent one that I know of is Glenn.    
      
   When I made a dozen or so posts there in early 2013 Glenn   
   and I got along real swell. I really appreciated his posts   
   and apparently he really appreciated mine as well.    
      
   O LORD GOD: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GLENNS OF THIS WORLD!   
      
   Glenn never wrote anything negative to me or about me, as   
   you now have, and he never made any errors, as now the    
   many that you have in your just three postings on this    
   thread. You need to get a clue from Glenn.   
      
   > d)  I think Debra might have drifted into the nonsense of believing   
   > there is "meaning" latent in some anagrams, independent of the meaning   
   > that human anagrammers deliberately put there, although I'm not sure   
   > that she's always consistent in her views on this matter   
      
   You need to read the FAQ for this group, especially the   
   section on the history of anagrams. An awareness of anagrams   
   originated with the Hebrew Prophets, following through to the   
   successor group on Mount Carmel known as the Essenes, and in   
   more recent times The Jewish Kabalists. At some point along the   
   way the Greeks learnt of same and they were embraced by the likes    
   of Plato and Pythagorus.    
      
   It has only been in the corrupt wicked 20th Century that there   
   have been persons who have chosen to call non-cognate transpositions   
   "anagrams". Not so before that point. Before that point anagrams   
   were respected and revered and utilized to good purpose by the   
      
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