From: dfreemans@live.com   
      
   On Friday, December 26, 2014 7:33:27 AM UTC-5, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 04:11:51 -0800 (PST), Debra wrote:   
   >   
   > >On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:02:41 AM UTC-5, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:46:03 -0800 (PST), Debra  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> >ANAGRAMS? ~   
   > >> >ARS MAGNA!   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Great art!   
   > >>   
   > >> Yes, that was a good one.   
   > >>   
   > >> The first time I encountered the word "ars" was in the title of a poem   
   > >> called "Ars Poetica," by Archibald Macleish, which should be required   
   > >> reading in all high school curricula (which in fact it may be, since   
   > >> that might be where I encountered it).   
   > >>   
   > >> Of the two translations from the Latin anagram you posted,   
   > >   
   > >ie Firstly, "The great art!"; Secondly, "Great art!"   
   > >   
   > >> I would   
   > >> think that the first one would be the better one.   
   > >   
   > >I don't know about "better", but what I did notice is that a kin art or   
   > >exercise called "Gematria" equals "Great aim",   
   >   
   > Only if the "aim" involves some kind of vandalism, like someone who   
   > boasts about the   
   >   
   > "gate I mar!"   
   >   
   > >synchronicity of "Gematria" to equal "Great aim" and for "Anagrams"   
   > >to equal "Ars magna" which means "Great art" I think is really quite   
   > >profound, plus I love the symmetry and think symmetry has strong   
   > >value as well, just as well or better than your proposal to say that   
   > >anagrams are THE great art (which isn't actually true, is it? Gematria   
   > >is just as much of a great art as anagrams are,   
   >   
   > Gematria is nonsense, and requires scarcely more skill than an   
   > elementary school arithmetic assignment.   
   >   
   > Here's Gematria for you:   
   >   
   > cat = 3 + 1 + 20 = 24   
   >   
   > Who cares what those letters add up to?   
   >   
   > And then the Gematria practitioners begin to bullshit about this   
   > simple sum they did and say,   
   >   
   > "Well, since the value of the word 'cat' is 24, it follows that a cat   
   > will be by your side 24 hours a day!"   
   >   
   > or   
   >   
   > "The value of the word cat must relate to none other than *December   
   > 24,* Christmas Eve, which tells us that a cat is to be valued in the   
   > same way that a child looks forward to Christmas on Christmas Eve!"   
   >   
   > Not only would this be bullshitting and crackpottery of the first   
   > magnitude, it of course ignores the fact that cats suck, while dogs do   
   > not.   
   >   
   > > and there are other   
   > >equally great arts). [Note: I initially put "The great art" because   
   > >for some reason that is the meaning given in the few cites I took   
   > >the time to look at; but after doing so, it came into my mind that   
   > >magna just means great, not greatest, AND that the word "the"   
   > >is not actually in "ars magna / art great / great art", AND that if   
   > >I changed it to just "Great art" then there would be the above cited   
   > >synchronicity and symmetry, so that is when I then made the change.]   
   > >   
   > >> Provided that you   
   > >> remove the unnecessary exclamation mark after it,   
   > >   
   > >Alt.Anagrams is a Usenet forum. Any person in the world with access   
   > >to a computer can take a look at its postings and archived postings.   
   > >There are maybe, right now, only several thousand people in the   
   > >entire world who both know about anagrams AND gematria AND take   
   > >interest in both of these things. Though I may put up a posting now   
   > >and then with some particular person or persons of the other posters   
   > >in mind (of which there have only been about 10 regular posters for   
   > >the past 4 years), the majority posts of mine are directed at the world   
   > >and for their eyes an exclamation mark is most appropriate. But even   
   > >if this all were not the case, I think it very fair to say that each anagram   
   > >is a surprise and exclamation worthy, as long as such a mark fits in with   
   > >the syntax (thus even I have at times not utilized such a mark).   
   > >   
   > >> it seems to have   
   > >> more gravitas, and is more an appropriately general in nature, than   
   > >> this second one you've posted.   
   > >   
   > >Yes, that would ascribe more gravitas, but as explained above I don't   
   > >think that more gravitas would be appropriate, nor would it offer the   
   > >other bonuses or as well.   
   > >   
   > >I am very pleased that you seem to want to continue at alt.anagrams;   
   > >that is one of the reasons why I ventured forth to talk.origins in hopes   
   > >of finding at least one new person interested in anagrams and in being   
   > >a poster at alt.anagrams (no newcomer-n-sticker in 4 years is pitiful).   
   > >   
   > >All the best,   
   > >   
   > >Debra Dee Freeman   
   > >A.A REDEEMER? D.F., NEB.   
      
   Your reply is very arrogant and rude [so no point   
   to talk about how erroneous it is].   
      
   Perhaps you do not recognize or understand that   
   alt.anagrams is an ALTERNATIVE forum, for people   
   who march to the beat of their own drum - not   
   for anal arrogant dominating people.   
      
   You also need to learn what the rules of Netiquette   
   are, as well as the rules set forth in the FAQ for   
   this forum, which include the following of Netiquette.   
      
   Until then, I will continue to love and enjoy all of the   
   metaphysical arts, including anagrams and gematria,   
   and ignore the statements and opinions of people who   
   exhibit bad character.   
      
   Debra Dee Freeman   
      
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