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   times. And these may come in the VISION and in the dreams [non-material    
   ways] (that have been for the time set aside), more and more as the entity    
   turns to those PATIENCE applications. For, as will be seen, the entity made    
   FOR the priest the Urim and the Thummim [material way]! And the entity    
   may give much of that which comes as an influence in the experiences    
   through the deeper meditation, and much constructive counsel to those that    
   seek into the mysteries that are hidden in the activities of those who would    
   give their expression of that they have conceived from the Spirit, that    
   MOTIVATES them in their activities....The entity then was among the    
   daughters of Levi, and those chosen to make the vestment of the priest.    
   And to the entity, because of its own abilities, there was given the    
   preparation of the settings of the breastplate and the putting of the stones    
   thereon, and the preparation of the Urim and Thummim [material way] for    
   the interpretations of the movements that came upon the high priest in the    
   holy of holies to be given to his people in or from the door of the tabernacle   
   ....In the present from that sojourn, those things pertaining to the mysteries    
   of the temple, the mysteries of numbers, of figures, and those things that    
   have their hidden meaning [signs, oracles - material ways], become as a    
   portion of the entity. / The color of the robe [of Jesus, woven by Martha]    
   was pearl-gray, as would be called now, with selvage woven around the    
   neck, as well as that upon the edge, as over the shoulder and to the bottom     
   portion of same; no bells, no pomegranates, but those which are woven in    
   such a manner that into the selvage portion of the bottom was woven the     
   Thummim and Urim. These were as the balance in which judgments were    
   passed by the priest. But these were woven, not placed upon the top of    
   same. Neither were there jewels set in same.      
       
   KEEP IN MIND too that a simple exercise Edgar gave for obtaining guidance   
   was to firstly ask yourself what YOU think is the right choice, and THEN    
   enter into a still silent meditation mentally and focus on the choice or    
   choices again and see if the answer is the same as what YOU thought the    
   right choice should be - if so, then KNOW that that is the right choice.    
       
   ALL OF THESE options are available when seeking an answer/clarity, and   
   people can have different preferences, and sometimes only a certain method    
   is best for a certain issue and/or at a certain time. Each of us must feel    
   our own way in these matters, but at all times seeking to know God's will,    
   or a truth, as the case may be.    
       
   YET EVEN WITH all these leads and information given, if you are still    
   interested in a successful Formal Meditation and a solution to your seeming   
   inability to achieve the proper state to experience a revelatory thought or   
   vision or et cetera - if that actually be why no revelation has come - in    
   my personal experience of Formal Meditation I found that the most important   
   first phase is to focus on RELAXING both the body (muscles) and the mind,   
   but especially the body (muscles). So I would suggest that you firstly   
   focus your mind on relaxing your muscles, saying the word RELAX in your    
   mind one or more times if need be. Of course you could also firstly get a    
   massage and/or take a warm bath - whatever will help to relax the body    
   (muscles). Then once you are in a physically relaxed state, start to focus    
   on relaxing your mind until it achieves a pleasant calmness. Then once    
   your mind has been additionally subdued, focus on an inner stance of,    
   O Lord God, this is my question, I am open to receiving your reply, and    
   then patiently wait while continuing in that stance. Or if you prefer to let    
   Him decide as to if there is any information needed by you at that time,    
   then have the stance, O Lord God, I am open to receiving any message    
   that you have for me at the present time. If you are thus physically and    
   mentally relaxed, and have the right spirit, but nothing comes, or you fall    
   asleep, you are not to be anxious about this but trust that all needed things   
   will come in proper time, and perhaps you are to try some other method.     
   There is also the possibility that the answer will come due to having had    
   the Formal Meditation session but at some time later after same. So be on    
   the alert if this is the case, and it is especially important to watch for    
   thoughts right before sleep and thoughts right after sleep. These thoughts   
   are sometimes revelatory.   
       
   Sure hope that something said here is of help to you.   
       
   Blessings,   
       
   Debra Dee Freeman   
       
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   May 05 2016   
      
   TL Spencer replied:   
      
   Hi Debra, thank you so much for replying to my query. Much of what you    
   said makes sense and I do practice much of it on a daily/weekly basis.    
   Perhaps I need to focus more on the "relaxing" part before attempting to go    
   into the mental state, however. I admit that sometimes I don't do that as    
   conscientiously as I should - or I fall asleep trying, so maybe that's the   
   key.     
   I'm anxious because I can't simply wait to "cross the bridge" when I come to    
   it, i.e., I can't just go down to the pier with all my household goods and   
   pets    
   and everything I own and get on the first ship that's leaving without knowing    
   where I'm headed. There are some definite decisions I need to make - like    
   where to move to -- as it will cost a great deal of money to move across    
   2000 miles; I simply cannot afford to make a mistake. At the same time, I'm    
   splitting up with a partner so my income is going to be cut at least in half -    
   so you see my dilemna. It's very scary. I do believe that meditation is    
   listening to God and allowing him to speak to us in various ways throughout    
   the day.  That said, I don't seem to have that intuition anymore, even though    
   I do try to remain open and watchful for that still small voice.  And I have    
   also tried reaching clarity or get some answers through dreamwork, again, to    
   no avail. I always try to frame my "question" in the context of wanting    
   this move to be of service to others more than to myself (espec. certain    
   friends and family whom I could help if I do this right); indeed, that is    
   always my thought pattern and part of my question going into the attempted    
   meditation, i.e., how can I help . . . etc. but I'm getting nowhere and    
   getting closer and closer to the deadline.   
      
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   May 05 2016   
      
   Debra replied:   
      
   Hi T. L., you are very welcome.    
       
   My deepest sympathy that there are major changes in your life and that this    
   is stressing you out as would be normally expected to at least some degree.    
   My deepest sympathy also that the future is not as clear to you at the    
   present time as you would like it to be and/or think that it needs to be.    
   May I know the deadline date? I cannot imagine, since you appear to be in    
   good spiritual condition, that God would get you and all your goods and    
   your pet to a ship and you either not know where it will take you or else    
   you not be sure that where it is taking you is the right direction. However,    
   even if it came to that, such circumstances do sometimes occur in life,    
   and amazing turns of fate have resulted, so the best thing to do now is to,    
   instead of projecting the worst case scenario into the future, every time    
   you are tempted to worry or be concerned tell God and yourself that you only    
   want His will for you in your life and that you trust His will for you and    
      
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