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   forces and principles? (A) Relatively so, in that dimension of consciousness    
   or awareness necessary to meet that arousing of the soul to its need - its    
   awareness of the Maker, the Word, the Spirit; and the influences therein    
   answer to that within the individual soul.    
       
   U N I V E R S E S   
      
   Edgar Cayce Reading 2830-2-19   
   For, remember, all of these planets, stars, universes, were made for the   
   ENTITY and its associates to rule, and not to be ruled by them, save as an   
   entity gives itself to their influence.   
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 5755-2-5   
   Thus in the answers we may find that, though there may be worlds, many   
   universes, even much as to solar systems, greater than our own that we   
   enjoy in the present, this earthly experience on this earth is a mere speck   
   when considered even with our own solar system. Yet the soul of man, thy   
   soul, encompasses ALL in this solar system or in others.   
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 5755-2-11   
   Is God's hand short, that there would not be all that each soul would    
   require? For it is not by the will of God that any soul perishes, but with    
   every temptation, with every trial there is prepared the way of escape. GOD,    
   the Father, then, is the Creator - the beginning and the end. In HIM is the     
   understanding, BY and through those influences that have taken form -    
   in universes - to meet the needs of each soul - that we might find our way    
   to Him.    
       
   V I S I T O R S   F R O M   O T H E R   W O R L D S   O R   P L A N E T S   
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 1616-1-27   
   The entity was among the priestesses of the Mayan experience. It was just   
   before that period when those as from the east had come, and there were   
   the beginnings of the unfoldments of the understanding that there were   
   other portions of the same land, or those that were visiting from other   
   worlds or planets.   
       
   Debra Dee Freeman   
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   P.S. Apparently the Reading cosmology is thus: One Cosmos (all that is),   
   which contains more than one Universe, and each of those Universes     
   contains more than one world or system or solar system.    
      
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   November 10 2015   
      
   Roger Bouthillier replied:   
      
   This subject can be mind blowing to the average christian who accepts our    
   current bubble of existence as an absolute as they define their version of    
   creation to simplistic explanations as biblical "genesis" tries to define it.   
   I do believe strongly that we are not alone in the universe and have been    
   contacted thought our evolution. Unfortunately, our current DNA program only    
   allows a life of 60 to 90 years in physical body and we return to start the    
   process over and over again until we can break out of our current mind control    
   environment and understand our evolution is happening in other time factors    
   within the mind of the creator as we skip thru dimensional portals and know    
   within ourselves that our present circumstances keep us from breaking thru the    
   present controls put upon us by our leaders who surely know we are not alone    
   but fear knowledge of that fact would diminish their authority.   
      
   Just using the simple computer search engine can open up alternative facts    
   that are not being investigated. Look up (disclosure project) for many    
   whistleblowers who cannot be all making this up. A good website on this    
   phenomena is (educatinghumanity.com).   
      
   Also a good book to read or download is "millennial hospitality" by Charles   
   Hall,    
   who is a very religious and moral person and claims to be a practicing Roman    
   Catholic who has interacted first hand with extraterrestials from the Arcturus    
   star system (see Cayce reference to Arcturus).   
      
   One can expand our minds as we ponder these references as we search for the    
   truth and bust out of our self limiting circumstances.   
      
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   November 11 2015   
      
   Debra replied:   
      
   Hello Roger:   
       
   Though certain persons might say that The Holy Bible only allows this    
   known "bubble of existence" because this is as its "'genesis' tries to define"    
   creation, they would be wholly in error.   
       
   In reality the very first chapter of the book of Genesis in The Holy Bible    
   tells us:    
       
   Genesis Chapter 1   
   God created the heavens and the earth in the very beginning.   
   And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was    
   upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon    
   the face of the water. And God said, Let there be light;   
   and there was light. And God saw that the light was good.   
   And God separated the light from the darkness. And God called    
   the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there    
   was evening and there was morning, the first day. And God    
   said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters,    
   and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made    
   the firmament, and divided the waters that were under the    
   firmament from the waters that were above the firmament; and    
   it was so. And God called the firmament Sky. And there was    
   evening and there was morning, the second day. And God said,    
   Let the waters that are under the sky be gathered together    
   in one place, and let the dry land appear; and it was so. And    
   God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of    
   the waters he called Seas; and God saw that it was good...   
       
       
   So in the beginning was God and water, and then God created a firmament    
   that separated waters from waters, and then God gathered together in one    
   place the waters under the firmament, and then dry land or Earth appeared.    
   All the rest of The Holy Bible is mainly focused on the Earth or this "bubble    
   of existence". The question is, what happened to the waters above the    
   firmament? Since God created with the waters under the firmament, surely    
   He created with the waters above the firmament! Or at minimum there is    
   the possibility, and so this possibility must be allowed.   
       
       
   Here are Reading quotes pertaining to WATER, called    
   THE MOTHER OF CREATION:   
       
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 4046-1-11  [March 31 1944]   
   We find also the urge in Neptune to be associated with    
   those things, people, places having to do with water.    
   Water is the mother of materiality.    
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 2533-8-5  [May 03 1944]   
   The body [Jesus] had prepared fire upon the earth -    
   fire, water, the elements that make for creation.    
   For as the spirit is the beginning, water combined of    
   elements is the mother of creation.    
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 262-28-12  [September 18 1932]   
   As is known of all, water is a necessary element in    
   the material forces for the sustaining of life in    
   the material plane; hence this element often is called    
   the mother of creation. How does water, then, supply that    
   which nourishes in this material plane? Being made up of    
   elements in itself that are the essence of that which may    
   truly be called spiritual in itself, it gives that association    
   or connection between the spiritual forces acting in    
   the material elements of the earth, or material forces,   
       
   Edgar Cayce Reading 5148-2-8   [May 29 1944]   
   This ye have the ability to do, to WRITE such stories,    
   books, articles; include in same oft those varying moods    
   as may be brought into an experience of the individual;    
   whether music, nature, night, sunrise, sunset, aloneness;    
   and those things especially of pure water, the mother of    
   creation, for this is the beginning through which all    
   matter which takes material form one day, some day,    
   somewhere has passed. Hence the earth and man and matter    
   all are three-quarters or more water, H2O. These are well,    
   and that is a beautiful book: "H2O".   
       
      
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