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   A.R.E. should have nothing to do with and should not be offering to the public.   
       
   As one example, the book "Conversations With God" says that no human    
   being should ever consume any alcohol. Yet both the Readings and the Bible   
   advocate the moderate consumption of wine, AND turning the wedding    
   banquet water to wine was Jesus' first public miracle. So the "God" that was   
   supposedly conversing here thus indicted the actual God's most special Son.   
       
   As another example, and of much more serious consequence, the book "A   
   Course In Miracles" says that there is no Satan, no Hell, no sin, and that it    
   was Jesus Himself who had possessed Helen Schucman's voice box and    
   channeled this information through her. So the actual Jesus who had    
   preached Satan, and Hell, and sin, had apparently been all wrong and hung    
   around the earth until He could finally find the right person for the job in   
   the    
   1970's who He could possess in order to set things right.     
      
   NO POINT TO GIVE ANY MORE EXAMPLES - THEY ARE ALL EQUALLY   
   OUTRAGEOUS. That is to be expected since Satan is behind all channeled   
   materials. His purpose is to lure people away from the truths in The Holy   
   Bible, which I plainly show here in this thread of mine are all paralleled in    
   The Cayce Readings. Yes, Yes, and Yes - the Readings are thoroughly    
   biblical, and it is only the truths in The Holy Bible which "bring the better     
   understanding of the purpose IN life, and thus enable man to realize the    
   closer association with the divine."   
      
   A number of years ago I was on the phone with one of the A.R.E. principals   
   and when I commented to her about the fact that the A.R.E. was offering to   
   the public offerings which are not similar to and do not coordinate with the   
   Readings, her reply to me was that the A.R.E. offers everything and allows   
   people to choose for themselves. Well, not only would such a policy be    
   against the above cited Work Reading, but Ha! What a LIE! The A.R.E.    
   Bookstore has never offered, for example, "The Satanic Bible". So then I    
   said to her, in order to point out to her that what she had just said was    
   not true, "Then when is it going to offer "The Satanic Bible"?", and her reply    
   was to immediately hang up the phone on me. And before this portion of    
   our conversation she had bragged to me that she does not read the Old    
   Testament but only reads the New Testament (it seemed to me that she    
   was thereby trying to say to me that she was just a warm-fuzzy-loving    
   type person, but what I actually gathered by this fact about her was that    
   she apparently thought herself smarter than the living God Who had the    
   Old Testament written, and Jesus who regularly quoted the Old Testament,    
   and Edgar Cayce who repeatedly read and loved the entire Holy Bible). With    
   people like this "manning the ship", it is no wonder that all of the sins and    
   errors have been commit that have been commit and are still being    
   commit.             
      
   All of these things have been extremely hurtful and disappointing and    
   frustrating to the true members of the true A.R.E., and ever since the time    
   that many of them left in the early 1980's when Charles Thomas took-over    
   the helm, but we can all know that in time, one way or another, and sooner    
   or later, the ship will be set aright. This is guaranteed. All things will be    
   made right, come the kingdom of God - the rule and reign of only the    
   righteous on the earth - if not before then. Amen!        
      
   Debra Dee Freeman   
      
      
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   August 03 2015   
      
   J.R. replied:   
      
   "A number of years ago I was on the phone with one of the A.R.E. principals   
   and when I commented to her about the fact that the A.R.E. was offering to   
   the public offerings which are not similar to and do not coordinate with the   
   Readings, her reply to me was that the A.R.E. offers everything and allows   
   people to choose for themselves. " per Debra   
       
       
   I had a similar interchange with a conference speaker who was a Christian    
   minister.  I still remember voices in the audience ranting that "this is   
   involves    
   judgment".  Some religions promote drug use, barbaric acts, child sacrifice    
   and all sorts of horrible behavior.  Is ARE going to promote these in the    
   interest of New Age sensibility?   
       
   Later, the minister and his smiling wife, told me  that we could have this    
   conversation privately, however, he did not have the conviction to say    
   publicly that some judgments are appropriate.  The minister and his wife    
   have not appeared at ARE since that time (roughly 15 years ago).   
       
   I realize that we are all overly judgmental and condemning but some    
   behaviors are generally agreed upon (by civilized people) as evil.  The    
   anything goes" culture of the 60's is still alive in many New Age circles    
   despite the legacy of broken lives.  My favorite example is Charley Manson    
   who preached a nearly perfect replica of the "Course" to his followers.  That    
   ended badly and most channeled gibberish will also lead its adherents to a    
   similar fate.   
       
   Cayce people who maintain that the Christ consciousness is universal often    
   forget to mention that universal consciousness also includes moral    
   judgments!  For example:   
   "41. How, then, ye ask, are ye to know when ye are on the straight and    
   narrow way?   
      
   42. "My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit that ye are indeed the children    
   of God."   
      
   43. How? Thy God-consciousness, thy soul, either condemns, rejects or    
   falters before conditions that exist in the experience of the mental and    
   material self. Mind ever is the Builder"  1436-1   
      
      
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   August 04 2015   
      
   Debra replied:   
      
   Hello Again J.R.:   
       
   Satan, who does exist according to The Readings and The Bible, has sought    
   to cause confusion, and working through his people he has done a very good   
   job of it.   
       
   There is much confusion, for example, regarding the subject JUDGMENT.   
       
   In actual fact, when Jesus said not to judge [see Matthew 7], he was talking    
   to the wicked HYPOCRITES, and warned them that the judgments that they    
   made would come back on themselves or be measured back to them. This    
   was not a commandment to everyone, as has been erroneously spouted.   
   Whereas when Jesus was talking to the righteous he told them to beware of    
   wolves in sheep's clothing and to stay away from the blind leading the blind   
   and to not cast pearls of wisdom before swine and et cetera, none of which   
   could be carried-out by the righteous if they did not effect discernment and   
   judgment. Jesus judged greatly also when talking to other wicked persons -    
   calling them snakes, scorpions, white-washed tombs, sons of hell, sons of    
   Satan, more. Judging another for a similarity to oneself is a sin; but judging    
   another for something not similar to oneself is not a sin, and both Jesus and    
   Paul advocated, even commanded, the confronting of a trespass [see    
   Matthew 18 and Galatians 6 for example].    
      
   When Edgar, in the Readings, talks about not judging, it has to be kept in   
   mind that only 17 persons who received Readings were told that they were   
   right with God - so the persons that he gave this advice to were undoubtedly   
   being hypocritical and/or lacking discernment in their judgments and so that   
   is why he told them not to judge. Again, to take this advice that Edgar gave   
   to these certain persons and say that it should be applied to everyone is to   
   err.   
       
   Both the Readings and the Bible are absolutely absolutist, rather than   
   relativistic. As far as the former, elsewise there would not be 270 Readings    
      
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