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   Debra Dee McQueen Freeman to All   
   Re: MY POSTINGS AT EDGARCAYCE.ORG -- (68   
   14 Aug 16 03:30:33   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   which mention the word "sin"! But in some cases a sin is absolute - for    
   example, the Readings say that to know to do good and to do it not is sin.    
   So there is no getting around that one. But in some other cases sin is    
   relative to the individual. However, as a philosophy relativism says that   
   there are no absolute sins, and this is the philosophy therefore embraced   
   by the ones that you mentioned who want to live by "anything goes - and   
   do not judge me". Yet this is a false philosophy. Many things are absolute   
   sins.   
      
   My favorite absolute comment in the Readings is: "For when ye have set a   
   vibration by the activity of thy SOUL'S force, ye are then either in parallel,   
   in direct accord, or in opposition, to constructive force [281-30-12]."    
      
   The false preachers have done much harm too, and their coming was    
   prophesied in Jude 1:4: "For certain men have falsely entered among you,   
   and these were foreordained from the very beginning to this condemnation;    
   they are ungodly men, turning the grace of God into lasciviousness, and    
   denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ" and in Acts 20:29-30:    
   "For I know this, that after I have departed fierce wolves will attack you,    
   which will not spare the flock. Also from among yourselves men shall arise    
   speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after them." This is namely    
   those who have preached that all one has to do is to say the Sinner's Prayer    
   and then one is saved, and works do not matter, and this salvation cannot    
   be lost no matter how frequent or terrible the sins of omission or commission   
   [the resultant expression has become "Once saved, always saved"]. Yet   
   Jesus said, "He who has patience to the end shall be saved [see Matthew    
   24]". [Note: This means patiently doing God's will, good works: see Hebrews    
   10:36 for example: "Patient endurance is what you need now, so that you    
   will continue to do God's will. Then you will receive all that he has    
   promised," and see Romans 2:7 for another example: "To them who by patient    
   continuance in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will    
   give eternal life."] And when Jesus was asked point-blank what must be    
   done to be saved, he replied in sum, "Follow the ten commandments,    
   especially the latter six [see Matthew 19]". And Jesus also said that    
   whoever observes and teaches the ten commandments shall be regarded as    
   great in the kingdom of God [see Matthew 5]. To preach that law is dead is    
   an absolute lie. 2 Peter 3:17 warns: "You therefore, my beloved, seeing    
   that you know these things beforehand, beware, lest you follow the error of    
   the lawless."    
      
   Debra Dee Freeman   
      
      
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   August 22 2015   
      
   J.R. replied:   
      
   Debra's research is amazing; I can't add anymore from a biblical perspective    
   but Cayce's take (see Biblical study notes per the member section) may be    
   helpful:   
       
   "1 st Verse. God brings into being His first begotten son, the first one to    
   whom He gives a physical body and gives him dominion over the earth, a    
   privilege denied the thought forms. Thus that Evil One, that spirit which had    
   rebelled against God in spirit, could only become active through God‟s    
   physical man AS that physical man allowed him to become active. Thus we    
   find man constantly beset by the necessity of making a choice between good    
   and evil. To make the proper choice, there must be cooperation with God. "    
       
   So, evil is a reality (a choice), not an illusion.   
       
   JR   
      
       
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   August 23 2015   
      
   Debra replied:   
      
   Hello Again J.R.:   
       
   How are you and your loved ones? Healthy and happy, I hope.   
   How are things? Good, I hope.   
      
   Where exactly did you get that quote from? I agree it is a very   
   good quote. But I tried a bit to find it at the website, using the    
   upper-right search-field, and I did not find it.   
      
   What I did find was an A.R.E. blog article posted 6/15/12    
   regarding a new A.R.E. Press book titled "Edgar Cayce's Story   
   of the Bible" which contains all three of the former bible-related   
   books by Robert J. Krajenke, and the original forward written for    
   them by Gladys Davis, and a link to go to ARECatalog.com to    
   "sneak-a-peak at its table of contents and sample chapter".    
      
   So I clicked on the latter and was disgusted to find the following   
   statement at the end of the description written (by who?) for   
   this book: "According to Edgar Cayce, the Bible is a sourcebook   
   for spiritual development that applies to every facet of our lives.   
   Beginning with the story of Genesis and the creation of souls   
   and culminating with the promises of Jesus and The Revelation,   
   you will discover the powerful plan that has been in place since   
   the Beginning - a plan set in motion to restore humanity's fallen   
   consciousness to its true heritage as spiritual beings." Ha! Ha! Ha!   
   Most souls have not fallen - their consciousnesses have fallen, and   
   need help getting back up! Ha! Ha! Ha! Like the elderly lady in the   
   Life Alert commercial who has fallen on the floor and then presses a    
   button and yells, "Help! I've fallen on the floor and I can't get back   
   up!" And so apparently when the Readings say over and over again    
   that in the beginning SOULS FELL by making choices out of alignment    
   with God's will, and that then God brought the material universe and    
   earth into being as a school for these FALLEN SOULS to hopefully    
   learn obedience to God's will by the things which they suffer, and   
   that what The Holy Bible is is an instruction manual for right living    
   in regards to one's words and deeds, and that one should heed the    
   warnings in the Bible, and that one should know that all of its    
   promises are provisional, and a zillion other statements that have    
   nothing to do with people's consciousnesses needing help getting    
   back up but rather people deciding to apply their will to serving God    
   rather than Satan Self Sin in their desires thoughts words deeds -    
   ALL OF THESE STATEMENTS AND MORE WERE AND ARE JUST A    
   LONG-WINDED PACK OF LIES ! ! ! ! AND EVEN THOUGH SATAN    
   HIMSELF KNOWS ALL THE ACTUAL FACTS AND STILL PREFERS TO    
   SERVE SELF AND SIN RATHER THAN GOD, THIS OF COURSE DOES    
   NOT APPLY TO ANY HUMAN BEING, ANY HUMAN SOUL. WHY, IF ALL    
   THE FALLEN SOULS COULD JUST GET IT INTO THEIR THICK HEADS    
   THAT THEY ARE PERFECT SPIRITS THAT SHALL LIVE FOREVER    
   THEN - POOF - JUST BECAUSE OF THAT THEY WILL ALL START TO    
   SAY AND DO WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE THEM SAY AND DO - OR,    
   WAIT A MINUTE, IT DOES NOT EVEN MATTER WHAT THEY SAY AND    
   DO - THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THEIR CONSCIOUSNESSES   
   "BEING RESTORED TO THEIR TRUE HERITAGE" - WHATEVER THE    
   HECK THAT ALL MEANS. Yet here is what THE READINGS SAY in regards    
   to heritage: "In the present, use those abilities in the opposite   
   direction....    
   not in that as may separate self from that which is the dearest heritage    
   for each soul - to be a manifestation of GOD'S PURPOSE [DDF: i.e.    
   versus Satan's, Self's, Sin's, purpose]! For ye ARE as gods. LIVE [DDF    
   emphasis] like that, then, in thy daily experience (Reading 2583-1)."    
   Does it say here that the dearest heritage for each soul is to have a    
   certain consciousness? NOWHERE! So could having a certain    
   consciousness really be what the more than 1,000-page Holy Bible   
   is all about? NO! How the heck many times do the Readings have   
   to say that APPLICATION - APPLICATION - APPLICATION is what it   
   is all about ? ? ? ? You decide to choose to desire what God would   
   have you desire, and to think what God would have you think, and   
      
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