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   XPost: alt.politics.radical-left   
   From: anarcissie@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:39:53 +0000, Dänk 42Ø wrote:   
      
   > On 12/01/2012 03:52 AM, Anarcissie wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:20:36 +0000, Dänk 42Ø wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 11/28/2012 03:10 PM, Xox wrote:   
   >>>> How Sandy Saved Occupy   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      [35]Sharon Lerner   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      November 27, 2012 ...   
   >>>>      Occupy Sandy's story began in the hours just after the   
   >>>>      superstorm hit, when "a few of us occupiers were just texting   
   >>>>      each other at like 2 a.m.   
   >>>>      ...   
   >>>>      Four adrenaline- and caffeine-fueled weeks later...   
   >>>   
   >>> Most Occupytards have no jobs, given that they seem to have infinite   
   >>> amounts of free time to protest, so who is paying for their iPhones   
   >>> and lattes?  And since they are supposedly protesting against   
   >>> corporate greed, aren't Apple and Starbucks corporations, and didn't   
   >>> Steve Jobs die a billionaire?   
   >>   
   >> I think you're behind the times there.  The reality is more interesting   
   >> that these old cliche's.  Indeed,   
   >> reality may be the NBT.   
   >   
   > What I'm saying is that they appear to be professional protesters.   
   > Someone is feeding them and paying their iPhone bills, so who?  Not that   
   > there is anything illegal about being paid to "protest" -- it is a   
   > paying job just like any other -- but then we must assume that their   
   > opinions are those of their employer, and we have a right to know who   
   > that is.   
      
   Actually, if I'm up on my Supreme Court decisions, I   
   don't think you do have such a right.  However, I'm   
   going to tell you all about it anyway.   
      
   I don't know about 'professional' in the usual sense.   
   The kind of activists I know are pretty cheap to support.   
   Often, they support themselves with part-time crap jobs.   
   Others live what might be called the student life.  If you   
   don't have children, a mortgage, and so on, you can live   
   rather cheaply if not very luxuriously, couchsurfing, house-   
   sitting, staying in squats or in a van.     Yet   
   others are retired from regular jobs or are living on   
   disability payments.  Also, a lot of people are willing   
   to contribute to activism even though they don't want to   
   or are unable to participate directly.  These may be   
   relatives or friends of the activists rather than an   
   organization.  Occupy Wall Street collected buckets of   
   money, literally, from passers-by during their brief   
   career in Zucotti Park.   
      
   Of course there are also formal organizations with   
   offices and employees and enrolled members, too, but as   
   far as I know they are out in the open, at least the   
   leftish ones seem to be.  I am less familiar with   
   right-wing activism.   
      
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