From: rgrannus@gmail.com   
   Copy: erratic.howard@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:34:59 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:   
   > Dￜnk 42ￜ formulated the question : > On 12/08/2012 11:14 PM, MattB   
   wrote: >> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 16:54:02 -0600, G. Morgan >>  wrote: >> >>> Dￜnk 42ￜ wrote: >>> >>>> That   
   American computer "security" companies would    
   cooperate with spy >>>> agencies upset me, so I began using Avira, made by a   
   German company. >>>> Germans are obsessively paranoid by nature, which is why   
   I trust >>>> their security software >>> >>> >>> It won't detect Spectre >> >>   
   >> What security    
   program do you think is best? Avira had some mediocre >> reviews. > > Reviews   
   probably written by the CIA. LOL [...] > Now that I have switched to Linux I   
   have no need for anti-virus software. Why is that? > There is an anti-virus   
   program for Linux    
   called "Clam," but my latest scan > revealed nothing. I wonder if it is   
   *still* as limited in scope as it always has been in the past. > Unix is   
   inherently secure by design, How so? An OS's primary function is to help   
   facilitate the execution of user's    
   choice programs. Much malware is executed due to bad choices, it's not always   
   about software vulnerability exploits. Even so, *nix isn't immune to those   
   either. > unlike Wind*ze which acts like a virus itself. LOL > Clam is mostly   
   used > to scan e-mail    
   attachments that might be forwarded to vulnerable > Wind*ze systems. Yes, as I   
   understand it, it was designed for e-mail vector malware specifically and   
   attempts to cover those well while the same malware arriving via some other   
   vectors might be detected    
   just as well in an overlap condition. [...]   
      
   There was a program or news commentary the other day about how the FBI and   
   other government agencies are compiling data on Americans (and probably   
   others) who haven't done anything wrong. They want to have a database to   
   search in case any of them do    
   something suspicious. A lot of us have thought it would come to this, or had   
   come to this, for years. I'm already getting warnings that certain posts are   
   going to unsubscribed people.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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