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   thomas p. to All   
   Re: #The Republican war on science   
   09 Feb 14 14:41:02   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.society.liberalism, alt.global-warming   
   XPost: alt.politics.conservative   
   From: gudloos@yahoo.com   
      
   "Dakota"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   news:ld7qla$t3q$1@dont-email.me...   
   > On 2/9/2014 3:12 AM, thomas p. wrote:   
   >> "Jihad Jeffy"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >> news:v-CdnZrq7ar1PWvPnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...   
   >>> [Note: Pay special attention to the fourth and fifth paragraphs.]   
   >>> _______________________________________________________________________   
   >>> America's Science Problem   
   >>> By Shawn Lawrence Otto   
   >>> Scientific American, Nov. 2012   
   >>>   
   >>> [Excerpts]   
   >>>   
   >>> "The Founding Fathers were science enthusiasts. Thomas Jefferson, a   
   >>> lawyer   
   >>> and scientist, built the primary justification for the nation's   
   >>> independence on the thinking of Isaac Newton, Francis Bacon and John   
   >>> Locke -- the creators of physics, inductive reasoning and empiricism.   
   >>> ...   
   >>> Based on this foundation of science -- of knowledge gained by systematic   
   >>> study and testing instead of by the assertions of ideology --   
   >>> the argument for a new, democratic form of government was self-evident."   
   >>>   
   >>> "[S]ome 236 years after Jefferson penned the Declaration of   
   >>> Independence,   
   >>> several major party contenders for political office took positions that   
   >>> can only be described as 'antiscience': against evolution, human-induced   
   >>> climate change, vaccines, stem cell research, and more. A former   
   >>> Republican governor [Jon Huntsman] even warned that his own political   
   >>> party was in danger of becoming 'the antiscience party.'"   
   >>>   
   >>> "Such positions could typically be dismissed as nothing more than   
   >>> election-year posturing except that they reflect an anti-intellectual   
   >>> conformity that is gaining strength in the U.S. at precisely the moment   
   >>> that most of the important opportunities for economic growth, and   
   >>> serious   
   >>> threats to the well-being of the nation, require a better grasp of   
   >>> scientific issues. By turning public opinion away from the   
   >>> antiauthoritarian principles of the nation's founders, the new science   
   >>> denialism is creating an existential crisis like few the country has   
   >>> faced   
   >>> before."   
   >>>   
   >>> "Ironically, the intellectual tools currently being used by the   
   >>> political   
   >>> right to such harmful effect originated on the academic left. In the   
   >>> 1960s   
   >>> and 1970s a philosophical movement called postmodernism developed among   
   >>> humanities professors displeased at being deposed by science, which they   
   >>> regarded as right-leaning. Postmodernism adopted ideas from cultural   
   >>> anthropology and relativity theory to argue that truth is relative and   
   >>> subject to the assumptions and prejudices of the observer. Science is   
   >>> just   
   >>> one of many ways of knowing, they argued, neither more nor less valid   
   >>> than   
   >>> others, like those of Aborigines, Native Americans or women.   
   >>> Furthermore,   
   >>> they defined science as the way of knowing among Western white men and a   
   >>> tool of cultural oppression. This argument resonated with many feminists   
   >>> and civil-rights activists and became widely adopted, leading to the   
   >>> 'political correctness' justifiably hated by Rush Limbaugh and the   
   >>> 'mental   
   >>> masturbation' lampooned by Woody Allen."   
   >>>   
   >>> "By falsely equating knowledge with opinion, postmodernists and   
   >>> antiscience conservatives alike collapse our thinking back to a   
   >>> pre-Enlightenment era, leaving no common basis for public policy. Public   
   >>> discourse is reduced to endless warring opinions, none seen as more   
   >>> valid   
   >>> than another. Policy is determined by the loudest voices, reducing us to   
   >>> a   
   >>> world in which might makes right -- the classic definition of   
   >>> authoritarianism."   
   >>>   
   >>> "Postmodernism infiltrated a generation of American education programs,   
   >>> as   
   >>> Allan Bloom first pointed out in 'The Closing of the American Mind.' It   
   >>> also infected journalism, where the phrase 'there is no such thing as   
   >>> objectivity' is often repeated like a mantra."   
   >>>   
   >>> "Reporters who agree with this statement will not dig to get to the   
   >>> truth   
   >>> and will tend to simply present 'both sides' of contentious issues,   
   >>> especially if they cannot judge the validity of scientific evidence.   
   >>> This   
   >>> kind of false balance becomes a problem when one side is based on   
   >>> knowledge and the other is merely an opinion, as often occurs when   
   >>> policy   
   >>> problems intersect with science. If the press corps does not strive to   
   >>> report objective reality, for which scientific evidence is our only   
   >>> reliable guide, the ship of democracy is set adrift from its moorings in   
   >>> the well-informed voter and becomes vulnerable once again to the tyranny   
   >>> that Jefferson feared.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Wonderfully written, horribly accurate.  I have noted the irony of this   
   >> insistence that every position is just a matter of opinion in many of the   
   >> posts to alt.atheism, irony because, as the author Shawn Lawrence Otto   
   >> points out, it comes from people who insist that their opinion is   
   >> undisputable fact making their opponents morally suspect.  It turns every   
   >> controversy into a football game in which "both sides" cheer for their   
   >> side,   
   >> and nobody pays attention to reality; which very rudely refuses to go   
   >> away.   
   >>   
   > Shawn Otto and thomas p each win my applause.   
   >   
      
    Thank you.   
      
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   thomas p   
      
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