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      XPost: alt.anti-ebay, alt.antichristnet, alt.aol       XPost: alt.aol.tricks              MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 30 April, 1999              If. You Intend To Reply, Please Read This       Please.... keep your response to one page!. Faxes over a page or. two will       be deleted. without being read.              Somewhere between 0. and 100%              The last few days there have been. no clear recordable instances of       abuse. However, while. travelling on the Underground, while walking around       near my. home and going to friends homes, I am constantly troubled by       thoughts that those people over there might be about. to get at me; that       the couple sitting in the opposite seats laughing are in fact laughing. at       me;. et cetera, et cetera.              A comment by a scientist to the BSE. inquiry sticks in my mind. He       described the possible scale of the epidemic. as "between 0% and 100%". It       might not be happening, it might not happen. at all, to any discernable       degree.... or it might be total. Without clear. recording, which seems to       have become impossible the last couple. of weeks, there is no way of       knowing whether the harassment really. is continuing, whether we have       entered a temporary hiatus, or. whether perhaps it has perhaps stopped for       now.              But for the time being I think there arent any reasons to. dicontinue these       faxes. I only re-started them six weeks ago in response to a. resumption of       MI5 harassment; and I think I will need to be more. convinced of absence of       persecution before I discontinue. my complaints.              The. Newscasters are still watching              In the last few weeks there. have been at least a couple of fairly overt       instances of "interactive watching" by newscasters. I reported this. in a       previous "MI5 Persecution. Update".              These instances are really very rare compared to. 1990-91, when there were       many dozens of such occurrences. Undoubtedly the. reduction is due to my       practice of videotaping everything I see. Recently. I had the opportunity       of showing this years "happenings" (Jon Snow/Nicholas. Witchell) to my       psychiatrist,. and he agreed that in both cases the newscasters were       expressing merriment without visible cause, and that objectively it. might       be possible for my claims. to be true - although of course other people       reported. similar thoughts to him, and this thinking is usually a symptom       of. illness.              Read. About the MI5 Persecution on the World Wide Web              The March 1998 issue (number 42). of .net Magazine reviews the website       describing it as. an "excellent site". Since August 11, 1996 over 50,000       people. have browsed this website.              You are encouraged to. read the web pages which include              a FAQ (frequently asked questions) section outlining the nature. of the       persecutors, their methods of. harassment through the media, people at work       and. among the general public              an evidence. section, which carries audio and video clips of media and       workplace harassment, rated according to how directly I think they refer. to me              objective descriptions of the state security agencies. involved              scanned texts of the complaints. I have made to media and state security       agencies. involved              posts. which have been made to netnews over the last four years on this topic              Keith Hill MP (Labour. - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever       refuses. to help.              MI5 Waste Taxpayer Millions. on Pointless Hate-Campaign              Recently I. was talking to an independent observer about the nature and       purpose of the perceived campaign of persecution against me. The. person I       spoke to, a highly intelligent. man, said he was struck by the utter       pointlessness of. the perceived campaign against me. He also said that, if       my theories. were in fact true, many people would have to be involved, in       the surveillance itself, and in the. technical side of the delivery of       information from my home to TV studios for example, if. the "interactive       watching" were happening as described. He. voiced these thoughts without       any prompting from me; but both I. and other observers had arrived at       pretty much the same conclusions, some. years ago.              I saw a team of four men at Toronto. Airport in 1993              To carry out the surveillance alone, full-time, would employ four or. five       men, or their equivalent in terms of man-hours. Each man would. "work" an       eight-hour shift, so you would need. at least three men doing the       surveillance, plus a connecting link / manager. An indicator. that this       estimate is correct arrived in 1993, when I was accosted by one of a. group       of four men at Toronto Airport; he said,. laughing, "if he tries to run       away well find him". Plainly these were the. men who had been involved in       the intrusive surveillance of. me for the preceding three years.              On other. occasions, I have seen the same man on two or three occasions. On       one such occasion, at Ottawas Civic Hospital in November 1996; he. gave his       name to the doctor. as "Alan Holdsworth" or some such; my hearing is not       very good sometimes and I am not. sure of the surname, although I am sure       "Alan" was his first name. I saw exactly the same. man again in Ottawa, at       the airport, in July 1998. Obviously,. other people must be "working" with       this person; he would not be the sole agent employed in this. case.              Usenet readers views on the Cost. to MI5 of Running the Campaign              Here's what a couple of other people on internet. newsgroups / Usenet       (uk.misc) had to say. regarding the cost of running such an operation...              PO: >Have. some sense, grow up and smell reality. What you are talking about       PO: >would take loads. of planning, tens of thousands of pounds and lots of       PO: >people. involved in the planning, execution and maintenance of it. You       PO: >must have a very high opinion of yourself. to think you are worth it.              and......              PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize how much it would cost to. keep       PM: >one person under continuous surveillance for. five years? Think about       PM: >all the man/hours.. Say they _just_ allocated a two man team and a       PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary,. say, #30,000 a year. Two men,       PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd need. to work in shifts -- so it would       PM: >be. six men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more       like       PM: >#30,000. to the employer.)       PM:. >       PM: >So, we're talking. #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the       PM: >supervisor.. #220,000. Then you've got the hardware involved. And       PM: >any transcription that. needs doing. You don't think the 'Big Boss'       PM: >would listen to hours. and hours of tapes, do you.       PM:. >       PM: >So, all. in all, you couldn't actually do the job for much less than       PM: >a quarter million. a year. Over five years. What are you doing that makes       PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and a quarter. million       PM: >on. you?              Those are pretty much the. sort of calculations that went through my head       once I stopped to. consider what it must be costing them to run this       operation. At the very least, a quarter million a year - and probably. much              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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