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   Don to All   
   Re: Is there a conspiracy going on about   
   18 Feb 08 11:07:08   
   
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   From: one-if-by-land@concord.com   
      
   "Ken S. Tucker"  wrote in message   
   news:130ad98f-d10b-4e5c-96ce-50645c88c28d@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Feb 18, 6:39 am, "Don"  wrote:   
   >> "RicodJour"  wrote in message   
   >>   
   >> news:95c39eca-42e9-4901-97f9-aa4c051848e6@j28g2000hsj.googlegroups.com...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > On Feb 17, 12:33 pm, "MiamiCuse"  wrote:   
   >> >> How are you supposed to match things up if you don't want to buy   
   >> >> everything   
   >> >> from the same manufacturer-series-model?   
   >>   
   >> >> I am simply confused by the variety of finishes avaialble on something   
   >> >> like   
   >> >> plumbing fixtures you have...chrome, matt chrome, brush nickel and   
   >> >> these   
   >> >> are   
   >> >> pretty standard and been around and now they also have velour chrome,   
   >> >> satin   
   >> >> chrome, satin nickel, brush nickel, Satinox, platinum, matt platinum,   
   >> >> silver, polished silver, high grade matt steel, polished steel...   
   >>   
   >> >> Is this a conspiracy, so you will always buy the entire group from   
   >> >> them,   
   >> >> once you buy a matt platinum shower mixer trim, you are stucked, you   
   >> >> can't   
   >> >> buy a matt platimum shower head or a matt platinum diverter form   
   >> >> another   
   >> >> manufacturer, they don't have it or if they do, they don't match.   
   >> >> Nothing   
   >> >> wrong with not matching, but if they are "close enough to be slightly   
   >> >> different" is the worst!   
   >>   
   >> >> and merger and acquisition is not "merging".  So Kohler takes over   
   >> >> Porcher   
   >> >> and Robern, but their finishes don't even match, did you notice that   
   >> >> it   
   >> >> is   
   >> >> possible to have the same manufacturer with two different products in   
   >> >> a   
   >> >> bathroom, both finish = satin nickel and they look slightly different   
   >> >> because they were different companies but now under one name?   
   >>   
   >> > What is your suggestion?  The Henry Ford model?  "You can have any   
   >> > color car you want - as long as it's black."  There are certain   
   >> > companies that work off of the Kohler color schemes and match their   
   >> > products to it.  That's fine when you have an 800 pound gorilla of   
   >> > bathroom fixtures, but what do you do in a kitchen or any other room?   
   >> > Nobody else has a dominant market share.  "Standard" finishes, such as   
   >> > US10 and the like, are not uniform across manufacturers and product   
   >> > lines - never have been.  Most of the time it isn't really an issue.   
   >> > If you have more stringent requirements about exact finish matches,   
   >> > then you're working backwards.  You're choosing a finish from a   
   >> > manufacturer and letting that drive the rest of your purchases, hoping   
   >> > that their products have the features you want (they don't) and that   
   >> > the overall price won't be greater (it will).   
   >>   
   >> There were 3 primary things I was wanting in bathroom sink faucets and   
   >> this   
   >> is what they were in order of importance.   
   >> 1) single handle, I hate the double handle units which seem to be the   
   >> norm   
   >> these days, unless you're willing to put up with the cheap ass Delta-Moen   
   >> builder grade stuff with the cheezy clear plastic handle.   
   >> 2) gooseneck, I'd like to have a little more *lift* in the waterflow   
   >> which   
   >> facilitates hand washing, teeth brushing, etc. Its easier to swish the   
   >> toothpaste out of the cave if the faucet is higher. Alas, there doesn't   
   >> seem   
   >> to be such an animal, gooseneck with single handle. We have a gooseneck   
   >> on   
   >> our laundry room sink but its double handle. The Kohler Fairfax model we   
   >> chose has a little more *lift* to it than the others.   
   >> 3) Traditional look, whatever that means. I'm not into the swoopy curves   
   >> or   
   >> squared off truncated look thats become popular.   
   >> 4) The finish was the least important, though it was going to be in the   
   >> *silver* range of color. I prefer the clean look of polished chrome but I   
   >> also like some of the nickel stuff thats out there. And it price and   
   >> function were proper I'd even consider some of the more *out there*   
   >> stuff,   
   >> like copper or that nasty dark stuff that looks like farmhouse fixtures   
   >> that   
   >> are 300 years old. Chrome seems to provide the best options for the   
   >> accessories. Yes, I even want the shower doors to match. I'm funny that   
   >> way.   
   >> Details, man, details. Pulls the whole package together.   
   >> 5) Price. We ain't cheap but we ain't Rockefellers either. The Kohlers we   
   >> bought were $88 at Lowes and thats about all I'm willing to pay for. The   
   >> shower package was $148 I think but we got ripped cause we had to pay for   
   >> a   
   >> tub spout which we won't be using. They had no package in that line up   
   >> for   
   >> just a shower, without the spout. I'll fashion a garden ornament out of   
   >> it,   
   >> or a wind chime.  =D   
   >   
   > We went identical bar sinks for kitchen and   
   > bathroom, $20/sink, $20/faucet set, I place   
   > a plastic bowl in it for hot shaving water.   
   > Maybe a bit chinsy, but wife likes them.   
   > Ken   
      
   LOL, where does one get a $20 sink and faucet?   
   Shaving?   
   Sissy.....  =D   
      
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