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   >>>>>>> As my house projects progresses before I cover things (walls, slabs   
   >>>>>>> etc..) I would like to keep a record of where things are.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I already have a floor plan in a DGN file inside MicroStation that I   
   >>>>>>> am working on, and all my framing plans are done that way.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Now that I have done some major relocation of drains etc...what is   
   >>>>>>> the best way to add that detail into CAD?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I am thinking of just getting up to a high ladder and take a picture   
   >>>>>>> from high up, then import the image into CAD, find two known points   
   >>>>>>> (room corners) and scale/move the image to the right location in   
   >>>>>>> relation to the my floor plan, and simply sketch in the drainsand   
   >>>>>>> electrical system, won't be accurate but should be close enough for   
   >>>>>>> my use, beats measuring every end of every pipe and elbows and   
   >>>>>>> fittings.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Is there an easier way?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> MC   
   >>>>>> As far as the CAD part goes, the only accurate way is to measure,   
   >>>>>> sketch, then draw it on the CAD.   
   >>>>>> I'm not sure you need to know where every single angle of pipe is   
   >>>>>> located though.   
   >>>>>> Drains, vents and that sort of thing, yeah, draw em in.   
   >>>>>> But good pictures will go a long way if there's an issue on down the   
   >>>>>> line.   
   >>>>>> Take as many as you feel comfortable with and pay attention to your   
   >>>>>> lighting, then organize them into folders for each room.   
   >>>>>> If you then convert your CAD floorplan to a pdf you can put hotlinks   
   >>>>>> in each room that will associate with each group of pictures.   
   >>>>>> Sort of like interior elevations, but with pix instead of drawings.   
   >>>>>> Remember, you can't have too many pictures, and with a digicam they   
   >>>>>> are free.   
   >>>>>> Also, consider doing a video of the whole thing, with zooms for the   
   >>>>>> close detail stuff, etc.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> yes I am taking lots of picture on each stage of the project.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think I have enough pictures that I can do a drill down - if I ever   
   >>>>> sell this house I can set up a floor plan when the potential buyers   
   >>>>> look at a room, then zoom in they see the tile on the floor, further   
   >>>>> zoom shows the slab behind it, then the slab removed showing the   
   >>>>> compacted sand, then the PVC drains...may freak people out lol.   
   >>>> Im my FL house there is a decorative column in the dining room that is   
   >>>> hollow.   
   >>>> Inside it is a set of as built drawings as well as the original building   
   >>>> permit blueprint and all the permits, material and labor receipts, all   
   >>>> of it, in a 6" dia PVC pipe with glued end caps.   
   >>>> I never told the new owners about it.   
   >>>> Maybe Bob Vila's great grandson will find it someday on *This Old House   
   >>>> 2099*.   
   >>> Great!   
   >>> In the 60's we were remodeling a Cambridge private school. When some   
   >>> books were being removed from a bookcase, the case suddenly opened,   
   >>> inside was a room about 8x8, with a chest. In the chest was only a set of   
   >>> original blueprints.   
   >>> EDS   
   >> With each wall I tear out of the bathroom I keep hoping one of the   
   >> carpenters put something inside the wall, even if its just a beer bottle.   
   >> But alas the last wall was removed yesterday and nothing was there.   
   >>    
   >> As a matter of routine builders should put stuff in the walls of the   
   >> things they build for future habitants surprise factor.   
   > I agree. When we were remodeling the Boston house we found a cylindrical   
   > tin lunch pail in a wall with the very dried remains of a lunch. Still have   
   > it. That house was built in 1859.  When we added walls we put ours and the   
   > kids names  within the walls. Gives the place some history. My present house   
   > has a closet door jamb with the heights of the family children from about   
   > 1900 to 1984.   
      
   I like stuff like that too...   
      
   This fantasy has cross my mind before of having the backs of one or two   
   of my teeth-- or something permanent even beyond my body, like in some   
   storage medium within a wall-- laser-engraved with a working model of my   
   DNA or whatever info that would be required.   
   Presumably if there was no blood-sample, future technology might still   
   be able to synthesize the DNA of a person from a good model.   
   Imagine being born and growing up to be told how you came into being...   
   that your father wasn't really your father and that your clone isn't   
   really your clone, but your design-blueprint of/from someone who lived   
   500 years ago. That you were essentially synthesized.   
   It might make for a cool sci-fi movie that dealt with the sensations,   
   complications, ethics and so forth behind that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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