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   Don to Kris Krieger   
   Re: Is there a conspiracy going on about   
   19 Feb 08 22:59:39   
   
   From: one-if-by-land@concord.com   
      
   "Kris Krieger"  wrote in message   
   news:13rmhff7i2n9v7f@corp.supernews.com...   
   > "Don"  wrote in   
   > news:fpc5de02jkd@news2.newsguy.com:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> "RicodJour"  wrote in message   
   >> news:95c39eca-42e9-4901-97f9-aa4c051848e6@j28g2000hsj.googlegroups.com.   
   >> ..   
   >>> On Feb 17, 12:33 pm, "MiamiCuse"  wrote:   
   >>>> How are you supposed to match things up if you don't want to buy   
   >>>> everything   
   >>>> from the same manufacturer-series-model?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I am simply confused by the variety of finishes avaialble on   
   >>>> something like   
   >>>> plumbing fixtures you have...chrome, matt chrome, brush nickel and   
   >>>> these are   
   >>>> pretty standard and been around and now they also have velour   
   >>>> chrome, satin   
   >>>> chrome, satin nickel, brush nickel, Satinox, platinum, matt   
   >>>> platinum, silver, polished silver, high grade matt steel, polished   
   >>>> steel...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Is this a conspiracy, so you will always buy the entire group from   
   >>>> them, once you buy a matt platinum shower mixer trim, you are   
   >>>> stucked, you can't   
   >>>> buy a matt platimum shower head or a matt platinum diverter form   
   >>>> another manufacturer, they don't have it or if they do, they don't   
   >>>> match. Nothing   
   >>>> wrong with not matching, but if they are "close enough to be   
   >>>> slightly different" is the worst!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> and merger and acquisition is not "merging".  So Kohler takes over   
   >>>> Porcher   
   >>>> and Robern, but their finishes don't even match, did you notice that   
   >>>> it is   
   >>>> possible to have the same manufacturer with two different products   
   >>>> in a bathroom, both finish = satin nickel and they look slightly   
   >>>> different because they were different companies but now under one   
   >>>> name?   
   >>>   
   >>> What is your suggestion?  The Henry Ford model?  "You can have any   
   >>> color car you want - as long as it's black."  There are certain   
   >>> companies that work off of the Kohler color schemes and match their   
   >>> products to it.  That's fine when you have an 800 pound gorilla of   
   >>> bathroom fixtures, but what do you do in a kitchen or any other room?   
   >>> Nobody else has a dominant market share.  "Standard" finishes, such   
   >>> as US10 and the like, are not uniform across manufacturers and   
   >>> product lines - never have been.  Most of the time it isn't really an   
   >>> issue. If you have more stringent requirements about exact finish   
   >>> matches, then you're working backwards.  You're choosing a finish   
   >>> from a manufacturer and letting that drive the rest of your   
   >>> purchases, hoping that their products have the features you want   
   >>> (they don't) and that the overall price won't be greater (it will).   
   >>   
   >> There were 3 primary things I was wanting in bathroom sink faucets and   
   >> this is what they were in order of importance.   
   >> 1) single handle, I hate the double handle units which seem to be the   
   >> norm these days, unless you're willing to put up with the cheap ass   
   >> Delta-Moen builder grade stuff with the cheezy clear plastic handle.   
   >   
   > Ours have metal handles, but I still don't like them - the base   
   > "overhangs" the sink, which itself looks cheesy (Id thought those things   
   > *did* come in standard szes...).  And even with theat, the spacing   
   > between everythign si so tight that it makes it really difficult to get   
   > soap etc. buildup out from in-between the spout and the faucet handles.   
   >   
   >> 2) gooseneck, I'd like to have a little more *lift* in the waterflow   
   >> which facilitates hand washing, teeth brushing, etc.   
   >   
   > GOt taht, and havethe same complain - I'd gotten it because I'd thought   
   > (silly me) that teh actual spout would be higher - it's actually not very   
   > high at all - why the heck have this big long arched neck, and still have   
   > the water outflow so dang low...?   
   >   
   >> Its easier to   
   >> swish the toothpaste out of the cave if the faucet is higher. Alas,   
   >> there doesn't seem to be such an animal, gooseneck with single handle.   
   >   
   > I've seen that on kitchen faucets.   
   >   
   > Whcih made me wonder, WHy couldn't a kitchen faucet like that be put into   
   > a bathroom, esp. since the "bath" faucet setup doesn't fit the sink   
   > anyway...   
      
   The hole spacing in the sink is different, kitchen faucet holes are spaced   
   farther apart.   
   But its a neat idea.   
   Maybe a smaller single bowl kitchen sink with kitchen faucet as a bathroom   
   sink.   
      
      
      
   >> We have a gooseneck on our laundry room sink but its double handle.   
   >> The Kohler Fairfax model we chose has a little more *lift* to it than   
   >> the others. 3) Traditional look, whatever that means. I'm not into the   
   >> swoopy curves or squared off truncated look thats become popular.   
   >> 4) The finish was the least important, though it was going to be in   
   >> the *silver* range of color. I prefer the clean look of polished   
   >> chrome but I also like some of the nickel stuff thats out there. And   
   >> it price and function were proper I'd even consider some of the more   
   >> *out there* stuff, like copper or that nasty dark stuff that looks   
   >> like farmhouse fixtures that are 300 years old. Chrome seems to   
   >> provide the best options for the accessories.   
   >   
   > Chrome alwasy matches chrome.  THat's an advantage.  Also, it's hard (if   
   > even possible...?) to find things like shower frames that are in anything   
   > other than either chrome, or that over-shiny "gold" color.   
   >   
   >> Yes, I even want the   
   >> shower doors to match. I'm funny that way. Details, man, details.   
   >   
   > It's reasonable, IMO.   IN this place, I paid extra for the "brushed   
   > nickel" fixxtrues - not realizing that the shower frame and towel   
   > rack/rings and toilet handles etc. would all still be chrome  =>:-[   
   >   
   > Not being  apurist, I tried out a coupel of items fro THe Hated Den Of   
   > Satan (i.e., WalMart), and they'er far enough from the sink so taht it   
   > works out OK - but overall, I should've gotten teh chrome, and replaced   
   > them if I decided to.  The mixture of brushed-nickel things jumbeld in   
   > with chrome things looks disjointed, incongrous, *cheap*.  All-chrome   
   > would actually ahve looked better.   
   >   
   > It's a small thing, but given what houses cost, hey...   
   >   
   >   
   >> Pulls the whole package together. 5) Price. We ain't cheap but we   
   >> ain't Rockefellers either. The Kohlers we bought were $88 at Lowes and   
   >> thats about all I'm willing to pay for. The shower package was $148 I   
   >> think but we got ripped cause we had to pay for a tub spout which we   
   >> won't be using. They had no package in that line up for just a shower,   
   >> without the spout. I'll fashion a garden ornament out of it, or a wind   
   >> chime.  =D   
   >>   
   >   
   > Get yourself some concrete, and fashion a fountain and/or birdbath  ;)   
   >   
      
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