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   >>>>> On Feb 17, 12:33 pm, "MiamiCuse"  wrote:   
   >>>>>> How are you supposed to match things up if you don't want to buy   
   >>>>>> everything   
   >>>>>> from the same manufacturer-series-model?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I am simply confused by the variety of finishes avaialble on   
   >>>>>> something like   
   >>>>>> plumbing fixtures you have...chrome, matt chrome, brush nickel and   
   >>>>>> these are   
   >>>>>> pretty standard and been around and now they also have velour   
   >>>>>> chrome, satin   
   >>>>>> chrome, satin nickel, brush nickel, Satinox, platinum, matt   
   >>>>>> platinum, silver, polished silver, high grade matt steel, polished   
   >>>>>> steel...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Is this a conspiracy, so you will always buy the entire group from   
   >>>>>> them, once you buy a matt platinum shower mixer trim, you are   
   >>>>>> stucked, you can't   
   >>>>>> buy a matt platimum shower head or a matt platinum diverter form   
   >>>>>> another manufacturer, they don't have it or if they do, they don't   
   >>>>>> match. Nothing   
   >>>>>> wrong with not matching, but if they are "close enough to be   
   >>>>>> slightly different" is the worst!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> and merger and acquisition is not "merging".  So Kohler takes over   
   >>>>>> Porcher   
   >>>>>> and Robern, but their finishes don't even match, did you notice   
   >>>>>> that it is   
   >>>>>> possible to have the same manufacturer with two different products   
   >>>>>> in a bathroom, both finish = satin nickel and they look slightly   
   >>>>>> different because they were different companies but now under one   
   >>>>>> name?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What is your suggestion?  The Henry Ford model?  "You can have any   
   >>>>> color car you want - as long as it's black."  There are certain   
   >>>>> companies that work off of the Kohler color schemes and match their   
   >>>>> products to it.  That's fine when you have an 800 pound gorilla of   
   >>>>> bathroom fixtures, but what do you do in a kitchen or any other   
   >>>>> room? Nobody else has a dominant market share.  "Standard"   
   >>>>> finishes, such as US10 and the like, are not uniform across   
   >>>>> manufacturers and product lines - never have been.  Most of the   
   >>>>> time it isn't really an issue. If you have more stringent   
   >>>>> requirements about exact finish matches, then you're working   
   >>>>> backwards.  You're choosing a finish from a manufacturer and   
   >>>>> letting that drive the rest of your purchases, hoping that their   
   >>>>> products have the features you want (they don't) and that the   
   >>>>> overall price won't be greater (it will).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There were 3 primary things I was wanting in bathroom sink faucets   
   >>>> and this is what they were in order of importance.   
   >>>> 1) single handle, I hate the double handle units which seem to be   
   >>>> the norm these days, unless you're willing to put up with the cheap   
   >>>> ass Delta-Moen builder grade stuff with the cheezy clear plastic   
   >>>> handle.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ours have metal handles, but I still don't like them - the base   
   >>> "overhangs" the sink, which itself looks cheesy (Id thought those   
   >>> things *did* come in standard szes...).  And even with theat, the   
   >>> spacing between everythign si so tight that it makes it really   
   >>> difficult to get soap etc. buildup out from in-between the spout and   
   >>> the faucet handles.   
   >>>   
   >>>> 2) gooseneck, I'd like to have a little more *lift* in the waterflow   
   >>>> which facilitates hand washing, teeth brushing, etc.   
   >>>   
   >>> GOt taht, and havethe same complain - I'd gotten it because I'd   
   >>> thought (silly me) that teh actual spout would be higher - it's   
   >>> actually not very high at all - why the heck have this big long   
   >>> arched neck, and still have the water outflow so dang low...?   
   >>>   
   >>>> Its easier to   
   >>>> swish the toothpaste out of the cave if the faucet is higher. Alas,   
   >>>> there doesn't seem to be such an animal, gooseneck with single   
   >>>> handle.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've seen that on kitchen faucets.   
   >>>   
   >>> Whcih made me wonder, WHy couldn't a kitchen faucet like that be put   
   >>> into a bathroom, esp. since the "bath" faucet setup doesn't fit the   
   >>> sink anyway...   
   >>   
   >> The hole spacing in the sink is different, kitchen faucet holes are   
   >> spaced farther apart.   
   >> But its a neat idea.   
   >> Maybe a smaller single bowl kitchen sink with kitchen faucet as a   
   >> bathroom sink.   
   >   
   > But wouldn't an all-in-one faucet'n'handle combo fit anywhere?   
      
   I don't think there is such a thing but....   
   After posting I remembered the Price Pfister faucet, which was a single   
   handle, we had in our last kitchen had sperate pieces, the faucet itself,   
   the soap dispenser and the sprayer.   
   Seems like their was a 4th thing too but I can't remember what it was right   
   now.   
   Anyway, perhaps the faucet itself, which only required one hole could be   
   used on a batheroom sink.   
   But it would have to be a bathroom sink with only one hole, otherwise the   
   other 2 holes would need to be covered somehow.   
   If you had a solid surface counter with the intergral sink then you could   
   just drill the hole wherever you wanted it and be done with it.   
   So, this thing is doable its just a matter if you want to do what it takes.   
   BTW: A kitchen sink faucet will easily cost more than $200 which I think is   
   way too much.   
      
   > At eh same time, IMO, since nobody seems anymore to install *utility*   
   > sinks, a great big bathroom sink would be great IMO.  One fo those big   
   > "farm style" sinks.  I mean, who made it a law that bathroom sinks have   
   > to be so puny that they're pretty much useless?  I don't ant to do plant   
   > reporrint, or post-hobby-work cleanup, in the *kitchen* sink, so IMO, a   
   > big ol' bathroom sink could be useful.  Also better for hand-washing the   
   > occasional item.   
   >   
   > I hadn't thought of that before, but why not?  A kitchen sink doesnt'   
   > even have ot be stainless steel - you can get Silestone or porcelain or   
   > heck, smoothed sealed concrete...   
   >   
   > And really, it'd also be great for folks who have babies.  THe more I   
   > think about it, the sillier those teeny little bath sinks seem to be.   
      
   Our current bathroom sinks are only about 4 or 5 inches deep and if you try   
   to wash your hands and forearms its difficult, you can't submerge and water   
   gets all over the counter.   
   Cheap builder grade junk.   
   The new one I'm going to install are small bathtubs.  =D   
      
   >>>> We have a gooseneck on our laundry room sink but its double handle.   
   >>>> The Kohler Fairfax model we chose has a little more *lift* to it   
      
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