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   "Don"  wrote in message   
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   > "Edgar"  wrote in message   
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   >> "Don"  wrote in message   
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   >>> The word *success* has been redfined:   
   >>>   
   >>> 1) Spend hundreds of millions of dollars putting a *spy satellite* that   
   >>> doesn't work into outer space   
   >>>   
   >>> 2) Spend tens of millions more shooting it down so that it (hopefully)   
   >>> doesn't kill too many people and poison the earth when it crashes   
   >>>   
   >>> 3) Use the debacle to make your case for even more Pentagon funding for   
   >>> a bigger and better satellite that you promise will work this time.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> On the other hand, in the private sector, the ONLY measure of success is   
   >> dollars and cents, no matter how you make it, no matter what gets   
   >> destroyed, no matter how many people are killed.  One thing is for sure,   
   >> the right answer hasn't been found yet, certainly not by governments,   
   >> certainly not by the free market.   
   >   
   > How many companies in the private sector have launched failed satellites   
   > and then shot them down, and then used that for a marketing strategy, and   
   > did it all with stolen money?   
   > You can live quite nicely without a gov't but you won't live very long at   
   > all without a free market.   
   >   
   >   
      
   The whole stolen money premise is your own whine, you can keep that, I don't   
   and never will buy it.  In fact I just voted to raise my property tax in   
   order to pass a bond that will help build more schools.  More taxes for me   
   personally, yet more work in my sector, and many other sectors.  A case of a   
   leftists doing as he says, oh no, what is the world coming to!   
      
   And if you want me to find a company who did exactly what the pentagon did,   
   I won't find it, and it's a stupid question to have me look for one.  OTOH,   
   I can name several companies that moved jobs from the US to save a buck, or   
   that polluted the shit out of some environment such that it is unlivable   
   again, or that took the pensions of many many people by lying, or that   
   didn't pay workers their due overtime, yet sold millions of copies of their   
   doodads that said workers were doing overtime for.   
      
   How bout one of the biggest clusterfucks of all time?  How bout a company   
   that controls the entire market of doodads, lets the middlemen only buy   
   limited quantities, thus raising a false demand, and when another company   
   happens to start making said doodad, floods the market so the smaller   
   company is forced to sell to them because there is very little demand, all   
   the while using practically slave labor to find said doodads.  And in the   
   end the market the doodads as one of the biggest lies of all.  Oh one more   
   thing...all out of the control of most governments.  I made it easy enough   
   to know who I am talking about but I'll let you stew if you don't.  This   
   company would surely like to have you on their side, shouting for a "free   
   market!"  Sorry I couldn't   
      
   Last thing I'd like to know, is when has it ever, EVER been shown that you   
   could live quite nicely without government?  In your dreams maybe, in some   
   book on theory maybe, but where is the real life experience?   
      
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   Edgar   
      
      
      
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