From: Please@dont.try
Don wrote:
> "RicodJour" wrote in message
> news:da26c326-85e2-4130-93cd-b688d316a271@u72g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 1, 9:58 am, "Don" wrote:
>>>
>>> Greed, like selfishness, gets a bad rap.
>>> The true meaning of those two words have been altered by the media.
>>> The problem in the scenario you described is lack of accountability.
>>> If someone intentionall or otherwise *harms* another they should be
>>> held accountable, quickly and with restitution and punishment.
>>> THAT sends a signal to others to watch what they are doing very
>>> closely for
>>> if they harm others they too will be held accountable accordingly.
>>> Today, frequently the system takes forever to resolve,
>>> accountability is misplaced or inappropriate or flat out eliminated.
>>
>> Accountable to whom? You seem to think that there would magically
>> appear some group that would have the ability to act in concert when
>> necessary. I believe that has been tried and it starts as a loosely
>> affiliated group and makes a seamless transition into a full blown
>> government. Other governments, dictatorship to democracy, would
>> spank the upstart government-in-the-making. You've experienced
>> death-by- committee inaction firsthand innumerable times. How does
>> that translate into an urgent need? Everyone just magically falls
>> into agreement? That doesn't happen in Disney movies and the world
>> is not a Disney movie. Maybe you feel that since _you_ have the
>> answer, everyone would just follow your lead.
>
>
> Where do you get this stuff man?
> Are you saying that you've never heard of these things I've mentioned?
> Its been around for a very long time, longer than the current US
> gov't. Thanks for attributing it to me, but its undeserved.
> Oh yeah, take a look at yourself, its working very well.
>
>
> How's that working on this
>> newsgroup so far?
>>
>>> 3 days ago Lady pee'd on the laundry room floor but I didn't
>>> witness it, so
>>> she wasn't punished, because she wouldn't have associated the
>>> punishment with the deed.
>>> In the past she has done that and I saw it take place and she got
>>> cracked on
>>> the backside and sternly reprimanded, she felt guilty and
>>> remorseful. Punishment delayed is punishment lost.
>>
>> Right. Don smacks the lone dog and wins. Excellent analogy. Now,
>> what happens when Lady has her feral pack backing her up? You going
>> to shoot every last one of them? For peeing on a floor?
>>
>> You talk around the subject and don't answer a simple question - how
>> does your fantasy 'system' enact/resist a Together We Stand, Divided
>> We Fall mentality? Me and a buddy can beat you alone. You have a
>> gun, we have two. You have no suggestions - indeed no understanding
>> - of how to act in concert and put the ego in the back seat so it
>> doesn't get in the way of an objective.
>>
>> In your free market society you'd still be retreating to the woods
>> because people are people no matter what form of government is in
>> effect and you don't understand people. You understand what you
>> don't like about people, but that's not the same thing.
>
> Again where do you get this stuff?
> I am not against people, just gov't.
> I'm really perplexed how some people can get stuff so wrong
> consistently. Michael thinks I'm a gun nut.
> Richard thinks I'm antisocial, and on and on.
> Its funny really.
> (hell, I haven't even touched a gun in a couple years now, and I am
> branching out globally in contact with people everywhere. But I'm an
> antisocial gun nut. LOL)
How did you think arguing for the right personally to bear nukes, while
advocating the destruction of all cities would be seen? Is it possible for
you to be honestly self-critical for even a moment? Your politics are that
of a Chuck Jones cartoon, where everyone brushes themselves off after a
fatal, cataclysmic mistake.
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