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|    Cujo DeSockpuppet to HarryLime    |
|    Re: George Dance on Smoking    |
|    16 Dec 25 17:31:28    |
      From: cujo@petitmorte.net              mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) wrote in       news:B4SdnVPXPMrd5dz0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com:              >> Will-Dockery wrote:       >>       >>> Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:       >>> Smokin’       >>> June 10, 2008 by George J. Dance Leave a Comment       >>>       >>>       >>> To smokers like me, anti-smoking legislation is a serious threat to       >>> our personal liberty and property rights. A prime example is the old       >>> Toronto bylaw banning smoking in restaurants. That law died quickly       >>> in the face of public and media criticism, restaurateur lobbying,       >>> and widespread civil disobedience, but is being revived under the       >>> new megacity's bylaw consolidation process.       >>>       >>> No-smoking bylaws rest on the rationale that ETS (Environmental       >>> Tobacco Smoke, or “second-hand smoke”) is a threat to       >>> nonsmokers. A typical claim is the oft-repeated one that ETS causes       >>> more than 3,000 cases of lung cancer per year in the United States "       >>> a claim that originated with a 1992 summary report by the US       >>> Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).       >>>       >>> That report has often been challenged. Critics have charged the EPA       >>> with violating scientific procedure, and manipulating and       >>> suppressing data, to reach a prejudged conclusion. This past July       >>> [1998], Judge Osteen of North Carolina's Middle Court agreed, ruling       >>> that the EPA had acted unscientifically and therefore illegally       >>> under its mandate, and ordered the report nullified.       >>>       >>> The Osteen decision, and the evidence on which it was based, are       >>> dealt with in a new book from Vancouver's Fraser Institute, Passive       >>> Smoke: The EPA's Betrayal of Science and Policy. In a clear and       >>> readable style the authors, biologist Gio Gori and philosopher John       >>> Luik, make a convincing case that the EPA report was “corrupt       >>> science” and dangerous for public policy.       >>>       >>> Smokers in particular will welcome the scientific discussion. The       >>> authors give all the details of how the EPA misrepresented research       >>> data, cherry-picking supportive studies and suppressing unfavourable       >>> ones. But they do much more. They explain why such studies are       >>> never, and can never, be scientific.       >>>       >>> They then review the known scientific facts about ETS to show that       >>> “smokers cannot be accused of posing a significant risk to       >>> non-smokers” . The argument that smoking endangers others       >>> collapses, and with it the case for governments' involvement.       >>>       >>> Non-smokers, too, will appreciate the public policy chapters. The       >>> authors present a chilling portrait of a government agency engaging       >>> in deceit to further its own political agenda, and of the threat       >>> that agenda poses to “the democratic values of autonomy,       >>> diversity, and respect”.       >>>       >>> The myth of the impartial bureaucracy, serving only the public good,       >>> dies hard. The facts presented in Passive Smoke are a welcome new       >>> nail in the coffin.       >>>       >>> [reprinted from Libertarian Bulletin, 19:3 (Spring 1999)]       >>>       >>>       >>> Has his stanch changed today?       >>>       >>>       >>> Speaking of 'nail in the coffin'       >>> the proof is in the pudding       >>       >>       >> The old smoking debate.       >       > Dunce wants to blow cancer causing smoke in enclosed public areas       > where pregnant women, babies, immuno-compromised individuals, etc.,       > are forced to breathe it in?       >       > Why am I not surprised?              Make the drunks go outside. The lushes likely can use the fresh air       before polluting their lungs again.              > I doubt this is what Ayn Rand meant by "The Virtue of Selfishness."       >       > But why are you reposting an Off-Topic rant over a Canuckian law that       > was passed 26 years ago?       >       > It should never have been posted to this group in the first place.              I'm baffled as well.                     --       "Post-editing someone's statement before replying to it is a sure sign       that you have already lost the argument." - Little Willie Douchebag gets       another asskicking from Pendragon              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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