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|    Message 43,736 of 45,517    |
|    Will Dockery to George J. Dance    |
|    Re: PENNY'S POETRY BLOG - November 2025    |
|    18 Dec 25 13:39:33    |
      From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid              George J. Dance wrote:       > Michael Monkey Peabrain aka HarryLime wrote:       >> Will Dockery wrote:       >>> George J. Dance wrote:       >>>> HarryLime wrote:       >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:       >       >>>>>>>> PENNY'S POETRY BLOG for November 2025 is now archived for your       enjoyment, featuring: Folgore da San Geminiano, Jones Very, John Clare,       Maurice Thompson, Emily Dickinson, James B. Kenyon, Siegfried Sassoon, Alun       Lewis, and Edward Thomas. Read        them at:       > >>>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2025/11/       >       > >>>>>>> Plagiarized Poetry Blaaargh.       >       > >>>>>> Poor HarryLiar still hasn't learned what "plagiarism" means.       >       > >>>>> True, "plagiarism" has a very specific meaning.       >       > >>>> Actually it has several very specific meanings. Here's one of them       courtesy of Dunce's "trusted source":       > >>>>       > >>>> "Yes, publishing someone's work on your blog without their explicit       consent is both       > >>>> plagiarism (presenting it as your own) and likely copyright       infringement, even if you credit the author, because you're using their       intellectual property without permission; you need permission or a fair use       exception, with simple credit not being        enough for full republication."       >       > >>> DANCE: Funny, I asked my "trusted source" and got a slightly different       answer:       > >>>       > >>> "No, blogging Emily Dickinson's poems while properly attributing them to       her is not considered plagiarism. Plagiarism involves presenting someone       else's work as your own, either explicitly or by failing to give credit. Since       you're attributing the        poems to Dickinson, you're not claiming authorship, so it doesn't qualify as       plagiarism."       >       > >> MMP: Sounds like your "trusted source" can't be trusted.       >       > > How so? The answer it gave me looks entirely correct. Your source, OTOH,       looks completely unreliable: its claim that publishing Emily Dickinson is       plagiarism because "even if you credit the author, because you're using their       intellectual property"        can only come from a source that's ignorant of both "plagiarism" and       "intellectual property".       > >       > > It definitely is completely confused about the term "plagiarism."              I've always to the time to understand the difference between poetry theft and       plagiarism.              For instance, Michael Cook stole my "Karma Bombs" poem and put it on his       website without my knowledge or permission which was poetry theft but he       didn't try to pass it off as his own poetry, which would have been plagiarism.              > >> Whatever.       >       > > Yeah, HarryLiar f**ked up again; "whatever". It does seem to be too common       to take much notice of, doesn't it?       >       > >> If you'd rather have me call you a thief, that's fine with me.       >       > > As I've told you, I have no problem with what you call me. It's only when       you pretend to be doing anything more than name-calling that you get my       attention.              Well put.              > This is a response to the post seen at:       > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=699367898#699367898              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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