From: noreply@pugleaf.net.invalid   
      
   mpsilvertoneyah wrote:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > > Unfortunately, what I see is more hypocrisy from you, Pendragon.   
   > >   
   > > You complain about a 20 years old editorial by George Dance about smoking,   
   and call it "shitty behavior" yet you seem to applaud and defend malicious   
   troll shenanigans from NancyGene and CujoDeSockpuppet such as trolling,   
   stalking, cyberbully attacks.   
   >   
   > As to NancyGene and Cujo, there is nothing "malicious" in their "troll   
   shenanigans."   
      
   Almost everything they post is from a malicious cyberbully agenda.   
      
   As usual, I don't expect you to admit it, Pendragon.   
      
   > One thread here, which you've kept going for 36 pages and counting, is   
   titled "NastyGoon's Latest Tizzy," and was started by George Dance.  If   
   NancyGene and Cujo attack you and Dance, it's because you and Dance attack   
   them in "malicious" troll threads    
   like that.   
      
   No, they've been attacking, stalking and cyber bullying me and others here for   
   many years.   
      
   You know that but you're not going to admit it, Pendragon.   
      
   > As to your charges of "stalking" and "cyberbully attacks,"   
      
   All obviously true, although I don't expect you to admit that.   
      
   > First: Visiting one of your social media pages is not "stalking."   
      
   CujoDeSockpuppet himself said it is, although I expect he'll deny that now.   
      
   > Social media platforms allow you to keep your posts "private" (visible only   
   to friends) and/or to keep your social media page available only to friends.    
   If you post a photo publicly, *you* are making it public information.  If you   
   rented a billboard    
   and pasted a photo of yourself on it, are people supposed to look the other   
   way when driving by?   
   >   
   > The internet is the "information superhighway" and if you post an image to a   
   public platform on it, people are going to see it.   
      
   If they're actually looking for it.   
      
   > Second: Cyberbullying is one-sided.  Cyberbullying is when one or more   
   individuals insult, embarrass, harass, make fun of, or make threats against   
   someone.  But when that someone is doing the same to them, it's no longer a   
   case of bullying -- it's    
   called a "flame war."   
      
   CujoDeSockpuppet and NancyGene are basically classic internet cyberbulles, as   
   many definitions show.   
      
   > You have gotten yourself into flame wars with pretty much everyone who's   
   ever been a member of this group over the past 25 years.   
      
   Untrue.   
      
   George Dance, Jordy, Zod, Ilya, Rachel, Tom Bishop, Antti Loude and many   
   others have been friends here through the years.   
      
   > They weren't bullying you.  They were fighting with you.   
      
   There's been all sorts of trolls here, your oversimplified statement can't   
   cover 25 years of history.   
      
   > So let's be honest.  You like fighting.  You like flame wars.   
      
   No, I've never "liked" fighting but I don't run from one either if there's no   
   other solution.   
      
   No, as I've said many times before, if it was up to me I'd declare peace here   
   immediately.   
      
   Truth is, you and your ilk don't want peace.   
      
   Rudy reached out and now we have an unofficial truce which I would like to see   
   last.   
      
   The entire newsgroup could follow this basic agreement as well...   
      
   If you really wanted peace.   
      
   > You continually troll members   
      
   Untrue.   
      
   Again, if it were up to me the poetry newsgroups would be in a state of peace   
   right now.   
      
   If you offered a truce with me as Rudy did I'd accept it immediately.   
      
      
   > who have fought with you in the past to come back (Jim and PJR).  When you   
   run out of things to fight about, you accuse others (who often haven't posted   
   to the thread in days) of being in a "tizzy"; or you necro-bump a dead flame   
   war thread and try to    
   get it started up again.   
      
   Only if that action seems appropriate.   
      
   > Hell, I remember when I convinced you to stop responding to troll attack for   
   a year -- and everyone you'd been fighting with went away.  What did you do?    
   You started picking fights with your friends, like Corey.   
      
   Untrue but it isn't worth discussing st this time, and I don't think you've   
   really forgotten the reasons for my many problems with Corey.   
      
   > As to your charges of hypocrisy from me, remember that I tried, countless   
   times, in the past to broker truces between you and NancyGene, Jim, Me,   
   Brooke, Usenet Editor, and others.  After spending a month or two getting   
   everyone to hesitantly agree,    
   you invariably broke the treaty and set the flame war in full gear again.   
      
   Only when there was a reason.   
      
   Of course you wouldn't be expected to admit that, Pendragon.   
      
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