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   Message 44,012 of 45,517   
   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: PENNY'S POETRY BLOG - November 2025   
   22 Dec 25 16:56:15   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
      
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> HarryLime wrote:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>> Michael Monkey Peabrain aka HarryLime wrote:   
   >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> PENNY'S POETRY BLOG for November 2025 is now archived for your   
   enjoyment, featuring: Folgore da San Geminiano, Jones Very, John Clare,   
   Maurice Thompson, Emily Dickinson, James B. Kenyon, Siegfried Sassoon, Alun   
   Lewis, and Edward Thomas. Read    
   them at:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2025/11/   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Plagiarized Poetry Blaaargh.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Poor HarryLiar still hasn't learned what "plagiarism" means.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> True, "plagiarism" has a very specific meaning.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Actually it has several very specific meanings.  Here's one of them   
   courtesy of Dunce's "trusted source":   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> "Yes, publishing someone's work on your blog without their explicit   
   consent is both   
   > >>>>>>>> plagiarism (presenting it as your own) and likely copyright   
   infringement, even if you credit the author, because you're using their   
   intellectual property without permission; you need permission or a fair use   
   exception, with simple credit not    
   being enough for full republication."   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> DANCE: Funny, I asked my "trusted source" and got a slightly   
   different answer:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> "No, blogging Emily Dickinson's poems while properly attributing   
   them to her is not considered plagiarism. Plagiarism involves presenting   
   someone else's work as your own, either explicitly or by failing to give   
   credit. Since you're attributing    
   the poems to Dickinson, you're not claiming authorship, so it doesn't qualify   
   as plagiarism."   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> MMP: Sounds like your "trusted source" can't be trusted.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>> DANCE: How so? The answer it gave me looks entirely correct. Your   
   source, OTOH, looks completely unreliable: its claim that publishing Emily   
   Dickinson is plagiarism "even if you credit the author, because you're using   
   their intellectual property"    
   can only come from a source that's ignorant of both "plagiarism" and   
   "intellectual property".   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> MMP: Whatever.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>> MMP: My above response still applies.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> You're a liar and a thief regardless of how you choose to label the   
   charges.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> DANCE: Yeah, HarryLiar f**ked up again; "whatever". It does seem to be   
   too common to take much notice of, doesn't it?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> MMP: Talk to yourself much, Dunce?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> MMP: If you'd rather have me call you a thief, that's fine with me.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> DANCE: As I've told you, I have no problem with what you call me. It's   
   only when you pretend to be doing anything more than name-calling that you get   
   my attention.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> MMP: What am I pretending to be doing, Dance?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> You have been caught plagiarizing Leonard Cohen, Pink Floyd, and   
   others; your blaaargh is named after a poem that you plagiarized from PJR; and   
   you refused to remove poetry by at least four people from your blaaargh when   
   the demanded that you do    
   so.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> You are a liar, a plagiarist, and a thief... not to mention a supporter   
   of NAMBLA.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> That's not a personal attack on you, Dance.  It's just the facts.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I don't think George actually "supports" NAMBLA, are you confusing GJD   
   with Allen Ginsberg or something?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> HTH and HAND.   
   >   
   > >> On 12/6/2017, the following exchange took place:   
   > >>   
   > >> MMP: As previously noted (do try to get some reading comprehension   
   skills, old man), I have never made an issue of the participants' sex.   
   > >>   
   > >> DANCE: Another Pedodragon lie. You've ranted and raved for a month about   
   the group that's done the most to fight the above discrimination.   
   > >>   
   > >> MMP: NAMBLA??? Are you seriously attempting to argue that NAMBLA is   
   spearheading the fight against sexual discrimination???   
   > >>   
   > >> *****   
   > >> George Dance chided me for attacking NAMBLA, and claimed that NAMBLA was   
   "the group that's done the most to fight [LGBT] discrimination."   
   > >>   
   > >> That sure sounds like he supports them to me.   
   >   
   > > Also the statement is obviously out of context.   
   > >   
   > > Let's let George Dance respond and explain the statement, if true.   
   >   
   > That statement is very much in context, as it is sandwiched between 1)  my   
   original post that it was responding to, and 2)  my post responding to it.   
      
   This happened during the time you and Senetto decided to drive Stephan   
   Pickering, Rachel and even me from the newsgroup, correct?   
      
   You and your friends were in full cyberbully mode st that time, as you know.   
      
   Here we are later in the same toxic environment you and your friends created.   
      
   And so it goes.   
      
   --   
   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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