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|    Message 44,012 of 45,517    |
|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: PENNY'S POETRY BLOG - November 2025    |
|    22 Dec 25 16:56:15    |
      From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid              mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:              > Will Dockery wrote:       >> HarryLime wrote:       >>> Will Dockery wrote:       >>>> Michael Monkey Peabrain aka HarryLime wrote:       >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:       >       >>>>>>>>>>>> PENNY'S POETRY BLOG for November 2025 is now archived for your       enjoyment, featuring: Folgore da San Geminiano, Jones Very, John Clare,       Maurice Thompson, Emily Dickinson, James B. Kenyon, Siegfried Sassoon, Alun       Lewis, and Edward Thomas. Read        them at:       > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2025/11/       > >>>>>       > >>>>>>>>>>> Plagiarized Poetry Blaaargh.       > >>>>>>>>>>       > >>>>>>>>>> Poor HarryLiar still hasn't learned what "plagiarism" means.       > >>>>>>>>>       > >>>>>>>>> True, "plagiarism" has a very specific meaning.       > >>>>>>>>       > >>>>>>>> Actually it has several very specific meanings. Here's one of them       courtesy of Dunce's "trusted source":       > >>>>>>>>       > >>>>>>>> "Yes, publishing someone's work on your blog without their explicit       consent is both       > >>>>>>>> plagiarism (presenting it as your own) and likely copyright       infringement, even if you credit the author, because you're using their       intellectual property without permission; you need permission or a fair use       exception, with simple credit not        being enough for full republication."       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>>> DANCE: Funny, I asked my "trusted source" and got a slightly       different answer:       > >>>>>>>       > >>>>>>> "No, blogging Emily Dickinson's poems while properly attributing       them to her is not considered plagiarism. Plagiarism involves presenting       someone else's work as your own, either explicitly or by failing to give       credit. Since you're attributing        the poems to Dickinson, you're not claiming authorship, so it doesn't qualify       as plagiarism."       > >>>>>       > >>>>>> MMP: Sounds like your "trusted source" can't be trusted.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>> DANCE: How so? The answer it gave me looks entirely correct. Your       source, OTOH, looks completely unreliable: its claim that publishing Emily       Dickinson is plagiarism "even if you credit the author, because you're using       their intellectual property"        can only come from a source that's ignorant of both "plagiarism" and       "intellectual property".       > >>>>>       > >>>>>> MMP: Whatever.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>> MMP: My above response still applies.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> You're a liar and a thief regardless of how you choose to label the       charges.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> DANCE: Yeah, HarryLiar f**ked up again; "whatever". It does seem to be       too common to take much notice of, doesn't it?       > >>>>>       > >>>>> MMP: Talk to yourself much, Dunce?       > >>>>>       > >>>>>> MMP: If you'd rather have me call you a thief, that's fine with me.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> DANCE: As I've told you, I have no problem with what you call me. It's       only when you pretend to be doing anything more than name-calling that you get       my attention.       > >>>>       > >>>> MMP: What am I pretending to be doing, Dance?       > >>>>       > >>>> You have been caught plagiarizing Leonard Cohen, Pink Floyd, and       others; your blaaargh is named after a poem that you plagiarized from PJR; and       you refused to remove poetry by at least four people from your blaaargh when       the demanded that you do        so.       > >>>>       > >>>> You are a liar, a plagiarist, and a thief... not to mention a supporter       of NAMBLA.       > >>>>       > >>>> That's not a personal attack on you, Dance. It's just the facts.       > >>>       > >>> I don't think George actually "supports" NAMBLA, are you confusing GJD       with Allen Ginsberg or something?       > >>>       > >>> HTH and HAND.       >       > >> On 12/6/2017, the following exchange took place:       > >>       > >> MMP: As previously noted (do try to get some reading comprehension       skills, old man), I have never made an issue of the participants' sex.       > >>       > >> DANCE: Another Pedodragon lie. You've ranted and raved for a month about       the group that's done the most to fight the above discrimination.       > >>       > >> MMP: NAMBLA??? Are you seriously attempting to argue that NAMBLA is       spearheading the fight against sexual discrimination???       > >>       > >> *****       > >> George Dance chided me for attacking NAMBLA, and claimed that NAMBLA was       "the group that's done the most to fight [LGBT] discrimination."       > >>       > >> That sure sounds like he supports them to me.       >       > > Also the statement is obviously out of context.       > >       > > Let's let George Dance respond and explain the statement, if true.       >       > That statement is very much in context, as it is sandwiched between 1) my       original post that it was responding to, and 2) my post responding to it.              This happened during the time you and Senetto decided to drive Stephan       Pickering, Rachel and even me from the newsgroup, correct?              You and your friends were in full cyberbully mode st that time, as you know.              Here we are later in the same toxic environment you and your friends created.              And so it goes.              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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