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   Message 44,041 of 45,517   
   HarryLime to All   
   Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)   
   23 Dec 25 11:54:37   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had "submitted" the   
   poems of mine you used in /Another Year of Stealing/. That was a lie. When   
   challenged, you claimed that I had given you "permission in writing." That was   
   also a lie. When    
   challenged on that, you coughed up some "emails" which showed that both were   
   lies; that in fact you had selected the poems yourself without asking me. You   
   can froth and tizzy all you want, but that is not going to make those facts go   
   away.   
   >>   
   >> MMP as HARRYLIAR :   
   >> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT have permission   
   to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in your "April" blaaarghzine, which   
   is the same thing.   
   >> Take them down now, thief!   
   >>   
   >> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted poems to your   
   schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use my poems in your schmatte, and   
   that you had proof of that in writing -- you try to deflect attention with yet   
   more lies. f**k off,    
   HarryLiar.   
   >>   
   >> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.   
   >>   
   >> And so it goes.   
   >>   
   >> Think about it, Donkey...   
   >>   
   >> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey.  He's currently   
   boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of his   
   publications.   
   >>   
   >> I called Dunce a thief.  Quite justifiably, I might add.   
   >>   
   >> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to back it   
   up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).   
   >>   
   >> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I, which   
   clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.   
   >>   
   >> I'm just setting the record straight.   
   >>   
   >> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing, wouldn't you   
   want to have the get the last word in?   
   >>   
   >> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I return to the   
   office, Harry.   
   >>   
   >> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is wrong, just as   
   the meaning of the word was clarified for me when Michael Cook used my "Karma   
   Bombs" poem without my knowledge or permission twenty years ago.   
   >>   
   >> I can explain at length later but you probably already understand by now.   
   >>   
   >> HTH and HAND.   
   >>   
   >> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or "copyright   
   infringement."   
   >>   
   >> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse than   
   "plagiarism," but you're correct.  Dance stole the poetry of at least 4 of the   
   contributors to his blaaargh.   
   >>   
   >> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your convenience:   
   >>   
   >> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey.  He's currently   
   boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of his   
   publications.   
   >>   
   >> I called Dance a thief.  Quite justifiably, I might add.   
   >>   
   >> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to back it   
   up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).   
   >>   
   >> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I, which   
   clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.   
   >>   
   >> I'm just setting the record straight.   
   >>   
   >> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing, wouldn't you   
   want to have the get the last word in?   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend myself.   
   >   
   > And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that if I'm stolen   
   from I'll definitely speak up   
   >   
      
      
      
   I heard you the first time, Donkey.   
      
      
   This is a response to the post seen at:   
   http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=699302516#699302516   
      
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