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|    Message 44,044 of 45,517    |
|    Cujo DeSockpuppet to HarryLime    |
|    Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)    |
|    23 Dec 25 20:52:09    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>> want your poems included. You say "You don't have my permission to       >>> use them."       >>>       >>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had "submitted"       >>> the poems of mine you used in /Another Year of Stealing/. That was a       >>> lie. When challenged, you claimed that I had given you "permission       >>> in writing." That was also a lie. When challenged on that, you       >>> coughed up some "emails" which showed that both were lies; that in       >>> fact you had selected the poems yourself without asking me. You can       >>> froth and tizzy all you want, but that is not going to make those       >>> facts go away.       >>>       >>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :       >>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT have       >>> permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in your "April"       >>> blaaarghzine, which is the same thing. Take them down now, thief!       >>>       >>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted poems to       >>> your schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use my poems in your       >>> schmatte, and that you had proof of that in writing -- you try to       >>> deflect attention with yet more lies. f**k off, HarryLiar.       >>>       >>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.       >>>       >>> And so it goes.       >>>       >>> Think about it, Donkey...       >>>       >>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's currently       >>> boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of       >>> his publications.       >>>       >>> I called Dunce a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       >>>       >>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to       >>> back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).       >>>       >>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I,       >>> which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.       >>>       >>> I'm just setting the record straight.       >>>       >>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       >>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       >>>       >>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I return       >>> to the office, Harry.       >>>       >>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is wrong,       >>> just as the meaning of the word was clarified for me when Michael       >>> Cook used my "Karma Bombs" poem without my knowledge or permission       >>> twenty years ago.       >>>       >>> I can explain at length later but you probably already understand by       >>> now.       >>>       >>> HTH and HAND.       >>>       >>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or       >>> "copyright infringement."       >>>       >>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse than       >>> "plagiarism," but you're correct. Dance stole the poetry of at       >>> least 4 of the contributors to his blaaargh.       >>>       >>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your       >>> convenience:       >>>       >>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's currently       >>> boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of       >>> his publications.       >>>       >>> I called Dance a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       >>>       >>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to       >>> back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).       >>>       >>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I,       >>> which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.       >>>       >>> I'm just setting the record straight.       >>>       >>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       >>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       >>>       >>       >>       >> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend myself.       >>       >> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that if I'm       >> stolen from I'll definitely speak up       >       > I heard you the first time, Donkey.              It may be too late, Dreckery likes being a Drama Queen.              --       "Post-editing someone's statement before replying to it is a sure sign       that you have already lost the argument." - Little Willie Douchebag gets       another asskicking from Pendragon              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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