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   Cujo DeSockpuppet to HarryLime   
   Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)   
   23 Dec 25 20:52:09   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >>> want your poems included.  You say "You don't have my permission to   
   >>> use them."   
   >>>   
   >>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had "submitted"   
   >>> the poems of mine you used in /Another Year of Stealing/. That was a   
   >>> lie. When challenged, you claimed that I had given you "permission   
   >>> in writing." That was also a lie. When challenged on that, you   
   >>> coughed up some "emails" which showed that both were lies; that in   
   >>> fact you had selected the poems yourself without asking me. You can   
   >>> froth and tizzy all you want, but that is not going to make those   
   >>> facts go away.   
   >>>   
   >>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :   
   >>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT have   
   >>> permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in your "April"   
   >>> blaaarghzine, which is the same thing. Take them down now, thief!   
   >>>   
   >>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted poems to   
   >>> your schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use my poems in your   
   >>> schmatte, and that you had proof of that in writing -- you try to   
   >>> deflect attention with yet more lies. f**k off, HarryLiar.   
   >>>   
   >>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.   
   >>>   
   >>> And so it goes.   
   >>>   
   >>> Think about it, Donkey...   
   >>>   
   >>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey.  He's currently   
   >>> boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of   
   >>> his publications.   
   >>>   
   >>> I called Dunce a thief.  Quite justifiably, I might add.   
   >>>   
   >>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to   
   >>> back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).   
   >>>   
   >>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I,   
   >>> which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm just setting the record straight.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,   
   >>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I return   
   >>> to the office, Harry.   
   >>>   
   >>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is wrong,   
   >>> just as the meaning of the word was clarified for me when Michael   
   >>> Cook used my "Karma Bombs" poem without my knowledge or permission   
   >>> twenty years ago.   
   >>>   
   >>> I can explain at length later but you probably already understand by   
   >>> now.   
   >>>   
   >>> HTH and HAND.   
   >>>   
   >>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or   
   >>> "copyright infringement."   
   >>>   
   >>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse than   
   >>> "plagiarism," but you're correct.  Dance stole the poetry of at   
   >>> least 4 of the contributors to his blaaargh.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your   
   >>> convenience:   
   >>>   
   >>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey.  He's currently   
   >>> boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of   
   >>> his publications.   
   >>>   
   >>> I called Dance a thief.  Quite justifiably, I might add.   
   >>>   
   >>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to   
   >>> back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).   
   >>>   
   >>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I,   
   >>> which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm just setting the record straight.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,   
   >>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend myself.   
   >>   
   >> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that if I'm   
   >> stolen from I'll definitely speak up   
   >   
   > I heard you the first time, Donkey.   
      
   It may be too late, Dreckery likes being a Drama Queen.   
      
   --   
   "Post-editing someone's statement before replying to it is a sure sign   
   that you have already lost the argument." - Little Willie Douchebag gets   
   another asskicking from Pendragon   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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