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|    Message 44,060 of 45,517    |
|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)    |
|    24 Dec 25 02:35:49    |
      [continued from previous message]              > >>>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had "submitted" the       poems of mine you used in /Another Year of Stealing/. That was a lie. When       challenged, you claimed that I had given you "permission in writing." That was       also a lie. When        challenged on that, you coughed up some "emails" which showed that both were       lies; that in fact you had selected the poems yourself without asking me. You       can froth and tizzy all you want, but that is not going to make those facts go       away.       > >>>>       > >>>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :       > >>>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT have       permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in your "April"       blaaarghzine, which is the same thing.       > >>>> Take them down now, thief!       > >>>>       > >>>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted poems to your       schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use my poems in your schmatte, and       that you had proof of that in writing -- you try to deflect attention with yet       more lies. f**k off,        HarryLiar.       > >>>>       > >>>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.       > >>>>       > >>>> And so it goes.       > >>>>       > >>>> Think about it...       > >>>>       > >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's currently       boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of his       publications.       > >>>>       > >>>> I called Dunce a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       > >>>>       > >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to back       it up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).       > >>>>       > >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I,       which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.       > >>>>       > >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       > >>>>       > >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing, wouldn't       you want to have the get the last word in?       > >>>>       > >>>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I return to       the office, Harry.       > >>>>       > >>>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is wrong, just       as the meaning of the word was clarified for me when Michael Cook used my       "Karma Bombs" poem without my knowledge or permission twenty years ago.       > >>>>       > >>>> I can explain at length later but you probably already understand by       now.       > >>>>       > >>>> HTH and HAND.       > >>>>       > >>>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or       "copyright infringement."       > >>>>       > >>>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse than       "plagiarism," but you're correct. Dance stole the poetry of at least 4 of the       contributors to his blaaargh.       > >>>>       > >>>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your convenience:       > >>>>       > >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's currently       boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's poems in one of his       publications.       > >>>>       > >>>> I called Dance a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       > >>>>       > >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie to back       it up (that he never gave me permission to use his work).       > >>>>       > >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and I,       which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his poems.       > >>>>       > >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       > >>>>       > >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing, wouldn't       you want to have the get the last word in?       >       > >>> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend myself.       > >>>       > >>> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that if I'm       stolen from I'll definitely speak up       >       > >> I heard you the first time       > >       > > Good, I'm glad you're keeping up.       >       > MMP: You do realize that you aren't part of this conversation, don't you              I'm here.              Therefore, I'm in it.              😏              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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