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|    Message 44,062 of 45,517    |
|    Cujo DeSockpuppet to Will Dockery    |
|    Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)    |
|    24 Dec 25 03:31:49    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> >>>> you did not ask for permission: you simply told me you had       >> >>>> "selected" some of my poems for your AYoS, and needed me to       >> >>>> correct your proofs so you could meet your publishing deadline.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> According to mine, I did not give you permission in writing       >> >>>> (since you hadn't bothered to ask for it), but merely made the       >> >>>> corrections you told me you needed.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> MMP: Dance, Dance, Dance... you don't send corrections if you       >> >>>> don't want your poems included. You say "You don't have my       >> >>>> permission to use them."       >> >>>>       >> >>>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had       >> >>>> "submitted" the poems of mine you used in /Another Year of       >> >>>> Stealing/. That was a lie. When challenged, you claimed that I       >> >>>> had given you "permission in writing." That was also a lie. When       >> >>>> challenged on that, you coughed up some "emails" which showed       >> >>>> that both were lies; that in fact you had selected the poems       >> >>>> yourself without asking me. You can froth and tizzy all you       >> >>>> want, but that is not going to make those facts go away.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :       >> >>>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT have       >> >>>> permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in your       >> >>>> "April" blaaarghzine, which is the same thing. Take them down       >> >>>> now, thief!       >> >>>>       >> >>>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted poems       >> >>>> to your schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use my poems       >> >>>> in your schmatte, and that you had proof of that in writing --       >> >>>> you try to deflect attention with yet more lies. f**k off,       >> >>>> HarryLiar.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> And so it goes.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Think about it...       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's       >> >>>> poems in one of his publications.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I called Dunce a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie       >> >>>> to back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his       >> >>>> work).       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and       >> >>>> I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his       >> >>>> poems.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       >> >>>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I       >> >>>> return to the office, Harry.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is wrong,       >> >>>> just as the meaning of the word was clarified for me when       >> >>>> Michael Cook used my "Karma Bombs" poem without my knowledge or       >> >>>> permission twenty years ago.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I can explain at length later but you probably already       >> >>>> understand by now.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> HTH and HAND.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or       >> >>>> "copyright infringement."       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse than       >> >>>> "plagiarism," but you're correct. Dance stole the poetry of at       >> >>>> least 4 of the contributors to his blaaargh.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your       >> >>>> convenience:       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's       >> >>>> poems in one of his publications.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I called Dance a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie       >> >>>> to back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his       >> >>>> work).       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and       >> >>>> I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his       >> >>>> poems.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       >> >>>>       >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       >> >>>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       >>       >> >>> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend myself.       >> >>>       >> >>> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that if       >> >>> I'm stolen from I'll definitely speak up       >>       >> >> I heard you the first time       >> >       >> > Good, I'm glad you're keeping up.       >>       >> MMP: You do realize that you aren't part of this conversation, don't       >> you       >       > I'm here.       >       > Therefore, I'm in it.              It's just like Dreckery to stop by, rifle your refrigerator for food to       gum and then take a shit on your coffee table. I meant that figuratively       but on second thought I see other possiblities that hit much closer to       Shitkickerville. Poor Ducky Mallard.              Let me sum up:              FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!              Douchebag!              --       "Post-editing someone's statement before replying to it is a sure sign       that you have already lost the argument." - Little Willie Douchebag gets       another asskicking from Pendragon              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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