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|    Message 44,063 of 45,517    |
|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)    |
|    24 Dec 25 04:01:04    |
      [continued from previous message]              > >> >>>> GJD: : Harry, Liar, according to your email that you attached,       > >> >>>> you did not ask for permission: you simply told me you had       > >> >>>> "selected" some of my poems for your AYoS, and needed me to       > >> >>>> correct your proofs so you could meet your publishing deadline.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> According to mine, I did not give you permission in writing       > >> >>>> (since you hadn't bothered to ask for it), but merely made the       > >> >>>> corrections you told me you needed.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> MMP: Dance, Dance, Dance... you don't send corrections if you       > >> >>>> don't want your poems included. You say "You don't have my       > >> >>>> permission to use them."       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had       > >> >>>> "submitted" the poems of mine you used in /Another Year of       > >> >>>> Stealing/. That was a lie. When challenged, you claimed that I       > >> >>>> had given you "permission in writing." That was also a lie. When       > >> >>>> challenged on that, you coughed up some "emails" which showed       > >> >>>> that both were lies; that in fact you had selected the poems       > >> >>>> yourself without asking me. You can froth and tizzy all you       > >> >>>> want, but that is not going to make those facts go away.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :       > >> >>>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT have       > >> >>>> permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in your       > >> >>>> "April" blaaarghzine, which is the same thing. Take them down       > >> >>>> now, thief!       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted poems       > >> >>>> to your schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use my poems       > >> >>>> in your schmatte, and that you had proof of that in writing --       > >> >>>> you try to deflect attention with yet more lies. f**k off,       > >> >>>> HarryLiar.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> And so it goes.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Think about it...       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       > >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's       > >> >>>> poems in one of his publications.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I called Dunce a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie       > >> >>>> to back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his       > >> >>>> work).       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and       > >> >>>> I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his       > >> >>>> poems.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       > >> >>>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I       > >> >>>> return to the office, Harry.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is wrong,       > >> >>>> just as the meaning of the word was clarified for me when       > >> >>>> Michael Cook used my "Karma Bombs" poem without my knowledge or       > >> >>>> permission twenty years ago.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I can explain at length later but you probably already       > >> >>>> understand by now.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> HTH and HAND.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or       > >> >>>> "copyright infringement."       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse than       > >> >>>> "plagiarism," but you're correct. Dance stole the poetry of at       > >> >>>> least 4 of the contributors to his blaaargh.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your       > >> >>>> convenience:       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       > >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's       > >> >>>> poems in one of his publications.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I called Dance a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a lie       > >> >>>> to back it up (that he never gave me permission to use his       > >> >>>> work).       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce and       > >> >>>> I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to use his       > >> >>>> poems.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       > >> >>>>       > >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       > >> >>>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       > >>       > >> >>> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend myself.       > >> >>>       > >> >>> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that if       > >> >>> I'm stolen from I'll definitely speak up       > >>       > >> >> I heard you the first time       > >> >       > >> > Good, I'm glad you're keeping up.       > >>       > >> MMP: You do realize that you aren't part of this conversation, don't       > >> you       > >       > > I'm here.       > >       > > Therefore, I'm in it.       >       > It's just like              In your case just like an obsessive troll.              HTH and HAND.              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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