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|    Message 44,202 of 45,517    |
|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/2)    |
|    31 Dec 25 05:32:45    |
      [continued from previous message]              > >> >> >>>> probably never be able to get his stench off again.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Why do you lie so much, Dunce?       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> You granted permission for all of your poems that appeared.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I even sent you pageproofs so could accept or reject my       > >> >> >>>> corrections/make additional corrections.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> You not only gave your permission, you lying sack of sh*t,       > >> >> >>>> but you gave it in writing.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Attached are copies of my email to you, and your reply.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> GJD: : Harry, Liar, according to your email that you       > >> >> >>>> attached, you did not ask for permission: you simply told me       > >> >> >>>> you had "selected" some of my poems for your AYoS, and needed       > >> >> >>>> me to correct your proofs so you could meet your publishing       > >> >> >>>> deadline.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> According to mine, I did not give you permission in writing       > >> >> >>>> (since you hadn't bothered to ask for it), but merely made       > >> >> >>>> the corrections you told me you needed.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> MMP: Dance, Dance, Dance... you don't send corrections if       > >> >> >>>> you don't want your poems included. You say "You don't have       > >> >> >>>> my permission to use them."       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had       > >> >> >>>> "submitted" the poems of mine you used in /Another Year of       > >> >> >>>> Stealing/. That was a lie. When challenged, you claimed that       > >> >> >>>> I had given you "permission in writing." That was also a lie.       > >> >> >>>> When challenged on that, you coughed up some "emails" which       > >> >> >>>> showed that both were lies; that in fact you had selected the       > >> >> >>>> poems yourself without asking me. You can froth and tizzy all       > >> >> >>>> you want, but that is not going to make those facts go away.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :       > >> >> >>>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do NOT       > >> >> >>>> have permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh (or in       > >> >> >>>> your "April" blaaarghzine, which is the same thing. Take them       > >> >> >>>> down now, thief!       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted       > >> >> >>>> poems to your schmatte, that I'd given you permission to use       > >> >> >>>> my poems in your schmatte, and that you had proof of that in       > >> >> >>>> writing -- you try to deflect attention with yet more lies.       > >> >> >>>> f**k off, HarryLiar.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> And so it goes.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Think about it...       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       > >> >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's       > >> >> >>>> poems in one of his publications.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I called Dunce a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a       > >> >> >>>> lie to back it up (that he never gave me permission to use       > >> >> >>>> his work).       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce       > >> >> >>>> and I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to       > >> >> >>>> use his poems.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       > >> >> >>>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when I       > >> >> >>>> return to the office, Harry.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is       > >> >> >>>> wrong, just as the meaning of the word was clarified for me       > >> >> >>>> when Michael Cook used my "Karma Bombs" poem without my       > >> >> >>>> knowledge or permission twenty years ago.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I can explain at length later but you probably already       > >> >> >>>> understand by now.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> HTH and HAND.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft' or       > >> >> >>>> "copyright infringement."       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much worse       > >> >> >>>> than "plagiarism," but you're correct. Dance stole the       > >> >> >>>> poetry of at least 4 of the contributors to his blaaargh.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your       > >> >> >>>> convenience:       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       > >> >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and Corey's       > >> >> >>>> poems in one of his publications.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I called Dance a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told a       > >> >> >>>> lie to back it up (that he never gave me permission to use       > >> >> >>>> his work).       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between Dunce       > >> >> >>>> and I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's permission to       > >> >> >>>> use his poems.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       > >> >> >>>>       > >> >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of stealing,       > >> >> >>>> wouldn't you want to have the get the last word in?       > >> >>       > >> >> >>> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend       > >> >> >>> myself.       > >> >> >>>       > >> >> >>> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident that       > >> >> >>> if I'm stolen from I'll definitely speak up       > >> >>       > >> >> >> I heard you the first time       > >> >> >       > >> >> > Good, I'm glad you're keeping up.       > >> >>       > >> >> MMP: You do realize that you aren't part of this conversation,       > >> >> don't you       >> >       >> > I'm here.       > >       > > Therefore, I'm in it.       >       > It's just like              Like I said, in your case just like an obsessive troll.              And so it goes.              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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