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|    Message 44,218 of 45,517    |
|    Cujo DeSockpuppet to Will Dockery    |
|    Re: AYoS: Another Year of Stealing (2/3)    |
|    31 Dec 25 16:05:26    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> >> >> >>>> instead.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> As I said, you dodged a bullet. Or, to use a more       >> >> >> >>>> appropriate metaphor, you dodged a pile of monkeyshit that       >> >> >> >>>> he threw at you. Once that sh*t of his hits you, like it       >> >> >> >>>> did me, you'd probably never be able to get his stench off       >> >> >> >>>> again.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Why do you lie so much, Dunce?       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> You granted permission for all of your poems that       >> >> >> >>>> appeared.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I even sent you pageproofs so could accept or reject my       >> >> >> >>>> corrections/make additional corrections.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> You not only gave your permission, you lying sack of sh*t,       >> >> >> >>>> but you gave it in writing.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Attached are copies of my email to you, and your reply.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> GJD: : Harry, Liar, according to your email that you       >> >> >> >>>> attached, you did not ask for permission: you simply told       >> >> >> >>>> me you had "selected" some of my poems for your AYoS, and       >> >> >> >>>> needed me to correct your proofs so you could meet your       >> >> >> >>>> publishing deadline.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> According to mine, I did not give you permission in       >> >> >> >>>> writing (since you hadn't bothered to ask for it), but       >> >> >> >>>> merely made the corrections you told me you needed.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> MMP: Dance, Dance, Dance... you don't send corrections if       >> >> >> >>>> you don't want your poems included. You say "You don't       >> >> >> >>>> have my permission to use them."       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> GJD: Liar, Liar, Liar ... first you claimed that I had       >> >> >> >>>> "submitted" the poems of mine you used in /Another Year of       >> >> >> >>>> Stealing/. That was a lie. When challenged, you claimed       >> >> >> >>>> that I had given you "permission in writing." That was       >> >> >> >>>> also a lie. When challenged on that, you coughed up some       >> >> >> >>>> "emails" which showed that both were lies; that in fact       >> >> >> >>>> you had selected the poems yourself without asking me. You       >> >> >> >>>> can froth and tizzy all you want, but that is not going to       >> >> >> >>>> make those facts go away.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> MMP as HARRYLIAR :       >> >> >> >>>> Jim, Robert, and Corey, otoh, have told you that you do       >> >> >> >>>> NOT have permission to keep their poems on your blaaargh       >> >> >> >>>> (or in your "April" blaaarghzine, which is the same thing.       >> >> >> >>>> Take them down now, thief!       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> GJD: And when caught in three lies -- that I'd submitted       >> >> >> >>>> poems to your schmatte, that I'd given you permission to       >> >> >> >>>> use my poems in your schmatte, and that you had proof of       >> >> >> >>>> that in writing -- you try to deflect attention with yet       >> >> >> >>>> more lies. f**k off, HarryLiar.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Unlikely, since Harry always wants the last word.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> And so it goes.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Think about it...       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       >> >> >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and       >> >> >> >>>> Corey's poems in one of his publications.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I called Dunce a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told       >> >> >> >>>> a lie to back it up (that he never gave me permission to       >> >> >> >>>> use his work).       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between       >> >> >> >>>> Dunce and I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's       >> >> >> >>>> permission to use his poems.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of       >> >> >> >>>> stealing, wouldn't you want to have the get the last word       >> >> >> >>>> in?       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I don't have time to read this but will later tonight when       >> >> >> >>>> I return to the office, Harry.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> But I will say I think your use of the term plagiarism is       >> >> >> >>>> wrong, just as the meaning of the word was clarified for       >> >> >> >>>> me when Michael Cook used my "Karma Bombs" poem without my       >> >> >> >>>> knowledge or permission twenty years ago.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I can explain at length later but you probably already       >> >> >> >>>> understand by now.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> HTH and HAND.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> From a purely legal standpoint, it would be either 'theft'       >> >> >> >>>> or "copyright infringement."       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Personally, I think that "literary theft" sounds much       >> >> >> >>>> worse than "plagiarism," but you're correct. Dance stole       >> >> >> >>>> the poetry of at least 4 of the contributors to his       >> >> >> >>>> blaaargh.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Now please answer my question, which I'll repeat for your       >> >> >> >>>> convenience:       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Dance stole poetry from me, Jim, Robert, and Corey. He's       >> >> >> >>>> currently boasting that he still has Jim, Robert, and       >> >> >> >>>> Corey's poems in one of his publications.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I called Dance a thief. Quite justifiably, I might add.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Dance (Mr. Tit for Tat), then called me a thief, and told       >> >> >> >>>> a lie to back it up (that he never gave me permission to       >> >> >> >>>> use his work).       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I posted two of the emails that were exchanged between       >> >> >> >>>> Dunce and I, which clearly show that I had Dunce's       >> >> >> >>>> permission to use his poems.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> I'm just setting the record straight.       >> >> >> >>>>       >> >> >> >>>> Now, be honest... if someone falsely accused you of       >> >> >> >>>> stealing, wouldn't you want to have the get the last word       >> >> >> >>>> in?       >> >> >>       >> >> >> >>> Yes, that's true, if I was accused of stealing I'd defend       >> >> >> >>> myself.       >> >> >> >>>       >> >> >> >>> And of course, you remember from the Karma Bombs incident       >> >> >> >>> that if I'm stolen from I'll definitely speak up       >> >> >>       >> >> >> >> I heard you the first time       >> >> >> >       >> >> >> > Good, I'm glad you're keeping up.       >> >> >>       >> >> >> MMP: You do realize that you aren't part of this conversation,       >> >> >> don't you       >>       >> > I'm here.       >> >       >> > Therefore, I'm in it.       >>       >> It's just like Dreckery to stop by, rifle your refrigerator for food       >> to gum and then take a shit on your coffee table. I meant that       >> figuratively but on second thought I see other possiblities that hit       >> much closer to Shitkickerville. Poor Ducky Mallard.       >> Let me sum up:       >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       >> Douchebag!              > In your case just like an obsessive troll.              >> A lying coward says what, Douchebag? Snipping and whining is all you       >> have left. That's sad.              >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!       >> FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL! FUCK OFF, DRECKWEASEL!              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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